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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neuromancer being made by a MegaCorp is somewhat ironic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think we're doing irony anymore. It's all prophecy now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We don't talk about Fight Club...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/xxG-YfedrfU

Predestination, an Australian movie based on Robert Heinlein's "All You Zombies..."

One of the things I like about this movie is that it's set in Heinlein's "futuristic" version of the 1970's, not the 1970's we got.

If they do Neuromancer right, it'll have pocket sized VCR machines and the televsion screens will be grwy, not blue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hope so! Shadowrun, which is basically Gibson's sprawl plus magic, set in the 2050s in original editions from around 1990 -

Later editions added wireless computer connections to keep up with present technology, but wifi just doesn't feel cyberpunk, so they later added some weird lore reason to go back to needing to plug in, for recent editions. Good change.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I LOVE Shadowrun, but it would be so criminally expensive to do (and do well) as live action that I would be genuinely worried if someone tried.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Come to think of it, Shadowrun lore is a Cyberpunk 2077 crossover with The Witcher (the awakening ≈ the conjunction), and witchers could work fine on SR physical-adept rules... 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Henson could do it.

But it would mean that Disney would have to buy it first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Watch Season 1 of Altered Carbon and then Bright (the Will Smith movie) get the people involved in both and lock them in a room with the Secrets of Power trilogy and dont let them out until they have scripts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Read [or reread] "Damnation Alley" by Roger Zelazny. You could argue that it's the original 'punk' science fiction novel. A hard bitten Hell's Angel is chosen to drive across the post-atomic wasteland to deliver a life giving serum to the last city on the East Coast.

When I think about it, I decide that the Atomic War took place circa 1970 and keep all the background details in that era.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have high hopes. Everything I've watched on Apple had been terrific.

Foundation, For All Mankind is an excellent alternate history, Constellation is starting out strong, Severance is one of my favorite psychological thriller, Monarch was a pretty good Godzilla show, Silo was fucking excellent Fallout esqe show, and the first season of Ted Lasso was pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I disagree. The production value of Foundation was terrific. The pacing was slow and boring, and the story was drastically changed. Neuromancer doesn't have enough content for a show, which means Apple writers are going to be writing most of it, and that's a scary proposition for those of us who love the original work.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Apple has produced some of my favorite series, but there have been stinkers. Foundation was a snoozefest and See wasted some good world-building on a meh storyline and cringe characters. I didn't last two episodes of Shrinking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I gave up on Foundation by the end of the second episode.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Very interested in how much money they're willing to throw at this. The broad strokes plot of Neuromancer makes for a pretty compelling heist story, but it's a heist that takes place in space, mostly from the perspective of cyberspace, and all of it reads like it would cost a lot of money to recreate. It's also near certain that all of the subtext is going to get scrubbed out of the show, because Wintermute is the kinda dangerous AI that spooks people, and to my understanding Apple doesn't like negative portrayals of AI.

It might have some pretty visuals, but it's hard to trust Apple to make anything punk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What could be more cyberpunk than Apple™️? It's one of the worlds most powerful corporations, they have suicide nets for radically mistreated employees and normalized hyper invasive marketing, anti consumer consumerism, and put it in all your pocket so it can literally predict/shape your thoughts!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I want a "Hell Comes to Frogtown" level budget, or nothing.

It can't be slick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They spent a ton on 'Foundation.'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it was still pretty bad, despite looking very pretty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I hated the movie 'Starship Troopers' when it came out because it changed everything in the book. Now I can look at it on its own merits.

I noped out of 'Foundation' because it was getting further and further from the books. On the other hand, I did like the Emperors' story line and the idea of a neverending series of clones.

We could spned a few months dissecting "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" vs. "Bladerunner."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Fine.

I'll settle for it.

Still, stiiiill mad that the planned TV series for Trent Reznor's Year Zero universe never happened.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I really hope it uses music from Billy Idol's Cyberpunk album!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m fairly excited. I just happen to be re~~ading~~listening to Nuromancer right now. Their have definitely been more bad adaptations of his work than good… luckily I have a soft spot for B-Movies too :-)

I hope this comes out good though! It’s such an interesting time with the current debate around AI… hopefully they can restrain themselves from trying to make it to topical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The streamer announced that it’s adapting William Gibson’s seminal cyberpunk novel Neuromancer into a 10-episode series.

Graham Roland (Lost, Jack Ryan) will serve as showrunner, while JD Dillard (Utopia) will direct the first episode.

In a press release, Apple said that the show “will follow a damaged, top-rung super-hacker named Case who is thrust into a web of digital espionage and high stakes crime with his partner Molly, a razor-girl assassin with mirrored eyes aiming to pull a heist on a corporate dynasty with untold secrets.”

Its been turned into a video game, a graphic novel, and is reportedly being made into a movie as well.

So far that has included series like Foundation, For All Mankind, Silo, Invasion, Monarch, and Constellation, which premiered earlier this month.

An adaptation of Martha Wells’ The Murderbot Diaries is also in the works, starring Alexander Skarsgård.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a good book. Just don't let Gibson be a narrator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah like they did with Johnny Mnemonic and The Peripheral.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was making a joke about the famously bad audio book Gibson did for Neuromancer. I've listened to it, it's really bad.