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The Life and Death of Aaron Bushnell: Friend Says Self-Immolation Was a Demand for Justice
(www.democracynow.org)
Rest in power.
this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
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I mean, that's kinda obvious ain't it?
Some are trying to paint him as suicidal rather than this being the act of protest that it is.
Self-immolation is one of the absolute worst ways to end yourself. If he was in the army and just suicidal, he'd have way better options to do it.
Can it be both?
It's definitely both. Lighting yourself on fire to make a point is a terrible idea. If your goal is to bring about change, killing yourself actively works against that.
I guess you haven’t heard of the arab spring https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mohamed-Bouazizi
Yes I have. And you're only thinking about that moment because another occurrence happened recently.
You'll even recognize if you're honest about this that the situation for most people did not change. In Yemen they even got dramatically worse.
Terrible idea, yes. Powerful form of protest? Also, yes.
Not protest. It's giving up with style.
Yet here we are talking about it.
The sad fact is that mentally stable people do not burn themselves to death in protest. He got too wrapped up in current events when he should have been spending time with family and friends (and probably doctors too).
Not if you're NPR apparently.
Not as if he wasn't screaming "Free Palestine!" for as long as he could or anything
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Mentally ill people burning themselves to death in protest is a lot more dramatic than angry facebookposting but fundamentally accomplishes about the same thing. Sorry we lost a good airman for nothing...seek help if you're feeling suicidal folks.
What should he have done?
That's the only real crime you can think of, really?
Hmmm.
He asked, what would you do if you lived in a genocidal state?
My answer "always have been".
you mean the US?
I'd say at least half of all modern nations, but yeah the US is one of the better examples
yup the US was an apartheid state from the start as well
Ridiculous. It was a flawed democracy not comparable to apartheid, which literally is a system where a minority group rules the majority group without consent.
tell that to the natives. tell that to the slave population it held. tell that to the current incarcerated population.
Yeah bud it's pretty much all bloodshed all the way back through human history. But right now with America as the only world superpower, it is better than has ever been for more people than ever before. If we take your approach, nobody has a right to anything, everyone is a colonizer and rapist. The world is always going to be half terrible, you are letting perfect be the enemy of good.
Yes, defend current atrocities now because "the past was worse". Wait, people couldn't own things before America? There have always been docile people as well so I think you may just be exaggerating on those points.
America isn't the only superpower though. And why do you think they are such a superpower? Could it be because of all the free prison labor we have and all of the unpaid labor that went into US infrastructure both during and after slavery was abolished?
The world doesn't have to be half terrible and if the US is such a good powerful supernation, why doesn't it fix the very problems that it causes? I think its because the US is an ultra-capitalist empire and requires all of the suffering it takes to maintain that empire.
wait the US is giving Hawaii back?
You sound like a flat earther.
did you know that the US is illegally occupying hawaii?
I was not aware there was presently an armed conflict in Hawaii and that the islands were under military control by the US. Do you mean that they were illegally annexed? Yeah I suppose I am aware that America sponsored a coup there.
It was for nothing.
Aaron Bushnell got CNN to say the word Genocide on live TV. Even when talking about marches with 1 million people CNN called it war.
WOW!!! CNN said "genocide"??? Holy fuck pack it up boys, the work is done.
I could make CNN say “babaabooey” if I put it in a manifesto prior to setting myself on fire.
They’ve said “genocide” before. This did nothing but silence one voice.
And it will be right back out of the news cycle next week.
The Buddhist monk didn't keep staying in the news for 20 years either. The world moves on. They want new stuff every day.
Global attention for a cause for (more than) a day achieved by a single person absolutely extraordinary.
Oh you mean the monk who set himself on fire in 1963? And totally stopped the Vietnam war by 1973.
I mean it made you make a comment. Regardless of your opinion, it still did something.