I always disliked RCS, I kept telling people it's a walled garden, mainly controlled by Google
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Even so you'd think they'd want to get as many people as possible on board with RCS to increase adoption, not fewer.
Then what they're doing tells us all we need to know.
Google wants to control what data they can glean from RCS users.
This is Google's end game messaging app. They want to replace text messaging and Google hangouts/allo/chat... were never going to cut it.
Its a chat app that doesn't look like one. It looks like the default sms app, you don't need anyone to download or make an account for it. There biggest hurdle was getting iOS users. They've now pressed apple into supporting it as well. They even have Apple state Google will help with their installation. We know Google pay apple billions every year to keep Google search the default on iOS, it even binds Apple to publicly and in court support the arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised if Google has paid billions just for RCS on iPhone. It will keep their marketing monopoly in place for a long time.
I agree. You're much better off just using Signal. It's not federated/decentralized, but all client apps, the protocol and the server code are completely open source and anyone can fork the project. It also works on every platform, its encryption protocol is the most secure one out there and it's been around for over 10 years. They also recently added some cool new privacy features.
Ok good. But then there's the problem of actually convincing people to use Signal. A messaging app is pointless if nobody else wants to use it.
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The weird thing is that so many people are buying into the Google and Apple marketing on SMS being insecure.
If you're on an unroooted smartphone running stock OS, nothing you do is secure
Basically everything is more secure than SMS though. Security is a gradient, and never absolutel.
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The thing is is that if MNO's truly cared about running their own RCS network (instead of leaving everything to Apple and Google). It might actually be a more open system. Sure, you can't self host an MNO, but it's still a much larger step forward.
Good standard you have there. Good features are proprietary to Google and you can't use it while rooted.
Lmao
Every day I am attracted more and more by PinePhone. At least as a secondary device, at first.
Perhaps it's not even close to polished yet with existing distributions, but at least it isn't made to be shitty.
Seems like a decently attractive option. I wish more apps were/had PWA alternatives and I'd be good
Not really a huge comment or critique... More just wanna spread the good word
I don't get the RCS hype. I already have apps for rich messaging and RCS offers nothing for me over those apps. What I do appreciate is SMS, which is posed to be killed-off by RCS. I can rely on SMS even when there is no data signal, can't say that for RCS. I wish I had a way to permanently disable RCS on my Pixel 6a, instead I have to keep rejecting the 'upgrade to RCS' dialog.
The hype is because America won't switch to Internet messaging by default and only wants one app to message with. So SMS is the only primary option for that. Meaning lower resolution media, and a lack of modern features like read receipts and typing indicators.
I don't know why, but that a sad news :/
Good news.
The more people they keep from using this garbage "standard", the better.
It still requires a phone number. It still falls back to SMS, it still fails, a LOT - just see the comments in this thread.
It's 20 years too late.
XMPP was better, in 2010, than RCS is today. I was using XMPP on my phone in 2010, messaging people on computers, seamlessly. Without a phone number. On multiple services using Pidgin.
No thanks, I don't want this garbage called RCS.
I was wondering why RCS just stopped working the other day
My husband and I were having an issue yesterday sending an RCS message, they were never getting delivered. They ended up being sent via SMS. It cleared up after an hour or so
I can also confirm it doesn't work on a de-Googled device, even with something like MicroG (though it may work on GrapheneOS's sandbox thing).
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