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Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal (feddit.de)

submitted 1 year ago by Oiconomia@feddit.de to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 260 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Save us, EU. You're our only hope. Sincerely, USA

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This keeps happening—can you lot make some laws for a change?

Edit: oh wait not like that

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's cool I fixed it now.

America, moments after outlawing IVF

Just as an aside, I'm an American that emigrated to Canada. My province (BC) is currently passing a law to make one attempt at IVF free for everyone (starting midyear in 2025)... laws actually can be used for good.

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In America, laws can also be used for good. Just not your good.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah this is cool and all but how can it benefit the wealthiest people in the country more? ✊💦✊💦

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[–] dan@upvote.au 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

California tries its best... There's a bunch of pro-consumer laws that other states don't have. There's the CCPA which is similar to GDPR (including the right to know and the right to be forgotten). You must be able to cancel a service easily online if you can sign up online. Store gift cards aren't allowed to have expiration dates. Gift cards with less than $10 on them must be redeemable for cash. Stricter laws against false advertising. And a bunch of other useful laws.

Not as good as the Australian Consumer Law, but better than pretty much every other US state.

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[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cries in britland

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are welcome to rejoin

[–] HerrLewakaas@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Actually probably not. Not without major concessions. The pound will have to go which they will never accept unless they have absolutely no other choice

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The concessions are the same as for any other EU member, which is fair

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 233 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nvidia: bans platform translation layers for CUDA

Meanwhile AMD: is forbidden from releasing an open source HDMI 2.1 driver supporting 4K@120hz because of HDMI Forums requirements.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago

Oops. Someone hacked the server and now the code is leaked online. How terrible.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

DisplayPort gang?

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sadly also not an open standard, in reality but they are friendlier to FOSS.

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[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Accidental DisplayPort guy checking in. I didn't even know it was a thing until I bought my graphics card. It seems like I dummied my way into some good tech.

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[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mindless fanboys: AmD aNd nVidIa aRe LitEralLy tHe sAme!

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[+] Sanctus@lemmy.world 177 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I want to see fines that have real teeth. No flat rates. Some defined amount per violation, in addition to forfeiture of all revenue derived from or connected to the violation(s). It might be complex to figure out what revenue that applies to inside a large corporation, so to help with the assessment you get a group of government auditors attached to your company for as long as the assessment takes. You pay their wages and provide them with whatever office space &etc they require, and they have a position on your executive board and full oversight of company operations until your debt to society is fully paid.

Regulatory violations should risk ending the company. If you can't run a profitable business legally then you shouldn't be running a business.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Personally, I think it would be easier for all involved to just fine based on a percentage of global annual revenue from the date of the violation to present. If they want personhood so bad, then they can have this too.

Edit for an example: let's say Intel does anticompetitive behavior 15 years ago and a court case finds them liable for damages today. Add up the last 15 years worth of global revenue, and take a percentage of that.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Making it easy is precisely not the point. Having to deal with auditors combing through your accounting records and overseeing your operations until every dollar of illegally gained revenue is accounted for is the point.

The consequence should be onerous, cumbersome and embarrassing for the company.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I get what you mean, but I prefer massive fines due immediately vs expensive and drawn out processes. Using my example, the very absolute bottom of the barrel Intel's fine could be is a percentage of over $500B (Intel's revenue in 2009 was $35B, multiplied by 15). Even at 1% based on this floor, the fine would be over $5B.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 71 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Mandatory jail sentences would be ideal.

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[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah fuck this.

... What's a translation layer?

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Got a Windows app you want to run on Linux? Wine and Proton are well known translation layers.

I guess Graphics Cards are similar. CUDA is basically the NVIDIA equivalent of .exe I think.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Cuda is an Nvidia specific method for using a graphics card to do computation (not just graphics), like physics simulations.

Translation layers would let you use software designed for other graphics cards to work with Cuda, or to let Cuda software work on other graphics cards

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So a knife maker can now forbid me to cut chicken with it?

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can a EULA ban fair use? Google v Oracle might have something to say about this.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It can say whatever it wants unless invalidated by a court or an existing law saying otherwise.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Probably depends on your country's laws. Here in Estonia most EULAs aren't valid because pressing accept on those isn't legally binding.

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[–] hypertown@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If translation layer can be banned with EULA how is wine not dead yet? M$ loves Linux or what?

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

MS loves money. If Linux makes them money, great. If not, fuck it.

[–] shankrabbit@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"...because it makes us money" could be put at the end of any slogan to make it 100% honest.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The EULA of the CUDA SDK bans reverse engineering output of the SDK to make translation layers (and such compatibility aids in general).

That makes it more legally dangerous and/or harder for devs. It has no effect on anyone not using the SDK.

[–] hypertown@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How is that Nvidia can ban reverse engineering and for example Nintendo can't. I'm sure they would love to just say in EULA that sorry but reverse engineering Switch is prohibited therefore every emulator is illegal

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[–] MyNamesNotRobert 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This has been said time and time again but fuck Nvidia. Preventing compatibility layers ensures games and programs that need this stuff are extra unreliable, bloated and enshittified.

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can prohibit whatever they want, but how enforceable is it? Does Nvidia intend to play whack a mole by checking for translation layers?

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah, they'll just pull "Nintendo move"

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago

"How dare you use software on your hardware," says another worthless gaggle of bastard morons.

Just have Jensen Huang flop his dick out and say CUDA is an anti-competitive tactic. It wouldn't be less obvious.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now imagine Microsoft banning the translation of DirectX to Vulkan. Could they do that? That would kill gaming on Linux in a snap.

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