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[–] [email protected] 445 points 1 year ago (12 children)

No it won't.

240 million grandmas, cheapskate businesses, and cash-strapped public schools will continue to use whatever operating system their computers already have, forever, until they break, security implications be damned.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Took this picture a couple of days ago: 1000006180

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

JSYK a lot of embedded devices use XP and 7, and some of those manufacturers pay for extended support. The military also pays for extended support for XP

But yeah, most of those devices are not patched and vulnerable AF.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always laugh at, after being in the military and a government employee, things being marketed as military grade. So what, it runs on windows server 2003 and hasn't been in production for 20 years?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My 76 y/o spouse loves Linux Mint. The 2017-bought desktop was deemed insufficient for Windows 11 and now runs Mint.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I'm seriously thinking of trying Linux when Windows 11 is forced. My computer has the specs to run it, but I'm just tired of Windows and Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Unless you run some really niche software or are a heavy gamer, you'll likely have no problems and enjoy it. Most software that you need for daily use has a FOSS equivalent that's equal or better. Usually those are also available straight from the package manager (if not there, then most likely Flatpak).

Just stick with a well supported distro like Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, or PopOS, and it'll be super easy.

I'm actually looking forward to the perfectly good Linux boxes that are bound to be popping up at yard sales or on ebay once that happens.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (40 children)

a heavy gamer

Why I am still hesitant to make the leap. Not just do I mostly use my PC for gaming but I have a tendency to jump into a new game for like 3 weeks and then off to the next like the horrid ADHD having fuck that I am. I don't want to possibly have to work to make a game work each and every time. I know its gotten a lot better about that but still. Convivence has me trapped yo.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was in the same boat. But Valve seriously made it easy to install and play games on Steam. If you have a spare drive, give it a shot.

Things I had to do were to turn on proton in the steam settings and installing vulkan drivers for my AMD card.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to possibly have to work to make a game work each and every time.

as long as it's not a competitive multiplayer, it's more likely than not that it'll work out of the box.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I suggest Mint for new users (and lazy old users like me). All of the simplicity of Ubuntu, without Canonical's shit

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m seriously thinking of trying Linux when Windows 11 is forced.

Sorry for the uncalled advice, but if you're considering it, you might as well try it now. Specially in ways that don't limit your access to Windows, such as live USB and dual boot (Windows and Linux in the same machine, at the same time). So if you do decide "I'm ditching Windows", in the future, you'll have an easier time doing so.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (31 children)

That’s a lot of new Linux computers.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I want to believe.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Once upon a time, updating your hardware every couple of years was essential. Your new hardware was a lot faster for normal use, and everyone benefitted.

Over time, however, people could wait longer between updates, as new hardware didn't impact daily use all that much.

The powers that were grew displeased, and then decided to force people to update more often. Newer hardware had shorter lifespans, software forced newer hardware, software as a service became king.

The End?

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Again, Install Linux, get rid of Microsoft shit.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I installed linux. I only use browser and vlc and it works great. I am not buying a new machine when old one works just fine.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago

For us Linux users it's just a fire sale. Diet cheap PCs incoming.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Windows 11 can suck my stinky cock. Windows will successfully force my LAZY ass to Linux. I am already testing the waters with my laptop.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds to me like an opportunity for Linux and Linux derivatives.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (9 children)

None of these PCs need to go to landfill. Linux

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (25 children)

I've been saying for years I was going to move back over to Linux. This will be the push I need. Sadly my Dad is bad at computers and will need Windows 11 when using 10 becomes a problem. I'm throwing this at my brother since I was the one who got our Dad a Windows 10 computer. FU Microsoft, you peaked at XP.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Meanwhile Apple does this every few years and nobody cares.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (21 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

Hello, it's me, a landfill

Those systems are going to be dirt cheap Linux boxes in the very near future

Or at least a couple will be for me

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Cool, a prime opportunity to scalp even more old machines by the end of the decade once they become valuable.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Or folks will just continue to use 10.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

More people will switch to Linux once and for all.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Techies? Probably. Your average user? They will keep using windows 10. Just like they’ve been using XP, Vista, and 8(.1) wayyyyy past EoL.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The great LINUX uprising of 2025!!!

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

yay i can finally get a good laptop on ebay in 2025! 😹

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Windows 7 appears to still be running on at least 100 million machines, despite Microsoft ending support for the operating system a year ago"

--Tom Warren. Jan 6, 2021.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/6/22217052/microsoft-windows-7-109-million-pcs-usage-stats-analytics

Maybe the landfill won't be overstuffed as quickly as expected.

See also

"Monthly market share held by Windows operating system for desktop PCs worldwide from January 2017 to November 2023, by version" https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows-operating-system-market-share/

It's a dwindling effect, not just instant abandonment.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm getting super tired of Microsofts OS as a service. There is absolutely no reason to make operating systems obsolete.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (17 children)

A fraction of those "old" computers will use Linux. Perhaps we'll reach 5% desktop market share soon thanks to Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Launching Windows 11 in the midst of a semiconductor shortage was such a dumb move on Microsoft's part, especially when 11 doesn't really offer that much more than 10. The only real 'groundbreaking' new feature (multiple desktops) was something that Linux had fifteen years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is such an old article at this point. PCs don't get sent to the landfill because the OS isn't supported anymore. That's idiotic.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So 2025 will finally be the year of the Linux desktop?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I built a new PC last year and bought a copy of Windows 11. Holy moly the login process required so much bullshit that I skipped through. It also every few days tries to get me to go through it again. After learning about all the Spyware and other bullshit I decided to just take the plunge back into using Linux as a main OS.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Reject Windows, emabrace Linux and FOSS Software

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would you send 240 million PCs to the landfill when you can install Linux on all of them?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This isn't a problem if you're still using Windows 7! ;-)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's beating a dead horse, but there are plenty of user-friendly Linux versions out there that will run just fine on most computers that ran Windows.

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