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    [–] person@lemm.ee 153 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    People are still running Win7 without pause. Don't kid yourself!

    [–] far_university1990@feddit.de 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    β€žNo update? So no more forced restart? Neatβ€œ

    [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    No more forced junk and changes I have to undo? My computer can stay the exact way I like it for a long period of time without Microsoft fucking it up? Sounds like a dream.

    [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    "

    Hi.

    Due to the embedded insecurity of our system we are forced to upgrade all of Earth's computers as remediation. While you sit tight for updates, all computers will run at half speed. Once the new chipsets are available, you may purchase them on a subscription basis.

    Your desktop is almost ready...

    Just finishing up...

    "

    Anyone else remember Meltdown and Spectre 2018?

    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This is a meme about enterprise equipment lifecycles.

    Huge corporate entities with machine inventory counts in the hundreds of thousands aren’t going to give a shit about trying to upcycle old hardware - they just want it to not be their problem anymore.

    [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I predict there will be a few companies that pop up to refurbish the hardware and sell it as a thin client solution. Places like call centers live on refurb equipment and are moving to a vdi infrastructure.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Thin client for windows 12 🧠

    CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My dad's friend was still running a 486 until last year. It did his spreadsheet.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Yeah Win7 is still good in comparison to win 11

    Steam discontinued Win 7 and they told everyone linux would be next, but then why? Linux is up to date

    edit: they* i mean Windows 7 users with it, sorry for the confusion!

    [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Win7 might have been a good OS, but it no longer is unless it never touches the internet.

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    [–] z00s@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows 7 is the only good version since XP, not even joking.

    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    I agree with you bit 10 was still usable. When 11 hit and I saw the future, I abandoned dual boot.

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    [–] pewpew@feddit.it 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Okay, but it's still bad for the environment if nobody picks them up

    [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Thats assuming that people are actually going to throw their computers in the trash when the OS reaches end of life.

    Most people running these old machines probably won't know or care.

    [–] Inconcinnity@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    They'll definitely know. Microsoft's last update for Windows 10 will make sure to add as many notices, popups and scary alerts as possible.

    And as a result plenty will care, particularly those who aren't tech savvy. If you've got relatives for whom you are their go-to IT person, be prepared.

    [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's assuming they even read the message and don't just close out of it instantly.

    [–] mdd@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Them: "I keep getting an error message." Me: "What's it say." Them: "I don't remember."

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    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I foresee rise in selfhosted sector because of cheap hardware

    [–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Actually happen. An i5 with 4 cores + 8 GB Ram and a 256 GB SSD for something like 100 bucks. Years before we paid this for a raspberry.

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    Homelab go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    [–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Lol ok.

    This is getting to Y2K hype levels, and in a similar fashion, will not do anything.

    I get Linux people like to fanboy/shit over Windows but surely you're tech literate enough to realize this is making a mountain from a molehill.

    [–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago

    Y2K was a big deal, but it was well funded and successfully dealt with. Wikipedia:

    The total cost of the work done in preparation for Y2K likely surpassed US$300 billion...

    [–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Now imagine if PC was invented after "post-PC"/iPhone era and you will need a different OS build for every model and there were "promises" of Windows updates for each machine after which it cannot be longer updated. Also basically computers would have locked bootloaders or void warianty when a system is touched.

    I wonder how many phones could be saved from the landfill for the last 10 years if there were supported by Linux.

    [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You can get ARM builds of Linux. I have never tried them so can't speak to how well they work on a phone.

    [–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just running Linux is one thing, but making it working with anything outside the CPU like the motherboard onboard chips and other components is a different task.

    Check out a table of what works on one of the Linux distro targetting phones: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

    There is no phone with fully working hardware and most barely booting and showing console.

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    [–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "send to landfill".

    No. Just because it can't run newer Windows versions doesn't automatically mean it gets catapulted to the landfill

    [–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

    When I was a residential garbage collector, I saved close to a dozen computers from the landfill that just needed a quick cleaning. A lot of people will get rid of their year old Alienware once it fills with cat hair.

    [–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 16 points 1 year ago

    Doesn't mean it won't either - most people won't realise the computer is still usable, either by workarounds or installing a different OS - they'll either trash the PC, recycle or sell it. Or keep using it not caring that its complaining constantly that it's out of support. (And when they do, it's "how can I get rid of this annoying error" not "how can I update this?" - they probably didn't even read the error - and god forbid you manage to do the update, they won't like it if you do)

    Hell most people don't even know Linux even exists, and a lot of them couldn't even tell me what their operating system name is.

    I've had relatives that try to ask what's going on and say "I have 11" without elaborating that it's windows 11. I remember years ago my aunt said I have version 97. Referring to, at the time the totally unrelated fact that she had Office 97 installed on her winXP machine. Took me ages to work out what she actually meant.

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    [–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I love me some cheap hardware to put Linux on it. It is a good feeling, plus less ewaste.

    [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

    Exactly. Just bought a Dell with an i5 9500 for €200. That'll be my new home server. I just hope more people get wise to how cheaply you can run a setup with a little bit of getting informed.

    Windows 11 doing this is more ewaste not less. It's more ewaste even if 100% of the existing stock gets reused because some (many?) of those computers will get replaced with new ones.

    [–] noproblemmy@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows hits end of life in 2025 you say? Welp.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

    Well everyone is still going to be using Windows 10

    [–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago
    [–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

    When/if this happens, if I got the money, I hope I find someone selling their old desktop to upgrade to 11 so I can get a cheap computer to use as a personal testing grounds server that I don't mind nuking if I accidentally mess up something.

    [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

    Still rocking my Amiga 500 and Performa 450. Post your old junk:

    [–] mvirts@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
    [–] moonburster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What's the best non win 11 pc we can go for?

    [–] JohnFoe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Do you have access to businesses upgrading computers or shutting down that division? They tend to have some interesting stuff for playing with on Linux.

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    [–] tills13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    The k8s cluster must grow.

    [–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago
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