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cross-posted from: https://yiffit.net/post/1072752

For a moment, it seemed like the streaming apps were the things that could save us from the hegemony of cable TV—a system where you had to pay for a ton of stuff you didn't want to watch so you could see the handful of things you were actually interested in.

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[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Piracy has steadily been getting more accessible and easy to use (see: Jellyfin, Plex, Sonarr, Radarr, Lidarr etc.). There is basically no reason anymore to pay for any digital context, especially considering the streaming services are screwing over both the users and the creators. I like to support game developers that make really enjoyable games, but I can't and won't tolerate any shitty subscriptions that offer increasingly less content for increasingly exorbitant prices

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Streaming services are dead to me rn. I’m paying £10/month to watch what I want when I want by using usenet (including electricity). Instead of paying for Netflix prime hbo Apple TV etc etc for over £10/month EACH.

Nice to see polish people on lemmy :)

[–] Acid@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago

Piracy and software was already really easy to use a decade ago ( sick beard / couch potato ) it’s just that the services at the time were good enough that you could watch practically everything on Netflix +1 so it wasn’t really a problem to stomach the cost. now I need 7 different subscriptions to watch shows I’m interested in which is a ball ache

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’ve already made the decision to sail the high seas in 2017 and selfhost my media.

Best decision I’ve ever made.

Sonarr + radarr + jellyfin

[–] GeekFTW@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I never stopped, but I doubled down a good 10 years ago when Netflix first announced they were gonna put an end to people getting around geolocking. I'm Canadian. I'd pay (at the time) for US Netflix 100%. Canadian Netflix wasn't worth the cost of the pot to piss in.

Spun up a Plex server, set up Sonarr, Jackett/Prowlarr, Radarr, Tautulli, and now I am Netflix for 20 people lmao.

Edit: And I'd have it no other way.

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s the way!

I feel your pain as I had Canadian Netflix around 2015. I was bummed when I knew that the new seasons of Suits (iirc) wouldn’t be available in Canadian Netflix for a couple of months.

I had to watch it in putlockers while I was paying for a freaking streaming service.

[–] GeekFTW@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Such a mess lol. I take pride in knowing that every movie, tv show, comedy special, album, game (up until the ps era cause i'm not made of hard drive money), comic book, novel, piece of software, basically anything I ever enjoyed over the course of my life (as well as a couple terabytes of random data hoarder shit) are sitting 2 feet away from my fingers at all times.

[–] somas@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@deleted

Does your ISP still provide Usenet access or do you subscribe to a Usenet provider?

Paying $9 a month for Usenet makes me wonder if I shouldn’t just keep paying for Hulu

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t think my ISP provides it.

Id suggest you to setup sonarr and radarr behind a vpn as it’s a set and forget setup.

Fully automated.

[–] somas@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@deleted
Oh? You don’t have to setup a usenet provider to Sonaar work?

I’m out of the loop then. You have any recommendations for modern setup tutorials?

[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Most (if not all?) of the *arrs can use torrents. edit: as for guides, i would just check out yams.media.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you mean? What does isp have to do with Usenet?

[–] somas@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@iHUNTcriminals

@owiseedoubleyou @deleted

Usenet access used to be included by ISPs. It’s been a long time since that was standard. I’m not sure which Usenet providers are worthwhile now.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah. but i think most of them excluded binaries, even back then.

[–] somas@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@rufus

@owiseedoubleyou @deleted @iHUNTcriminals

No, binaries were included. That was the main way binaries were exchanged for a time.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure around where i live you did not get the alt.binaries groups except if you went to a proper usenet provider and payed. the ISPs didn't want to pay for all of the storage. but this was a long time ago and i wasn't yet interested in stuff like that. maybe i misremember.

[–] vodka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

My ISP has their own usenet servers. I get access to all the good shit via it, for free.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trusting promises of corporations is like believing that a wild cobra won't bite you. It's definitely possible, highly unlikely they will keep the promise.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Of course Netflix was going to increase prices and reduce their offering. What did anyone think would happen? They’d just decide that a stable profit was good enough?

[–] Reocken@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

24 years of continuous piracy. All I pay for is a seedbox. Paying these scummy corporations nothing each month feels great!

[–] orca@links.hackliberty.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

May I ask what are the benefits of a seedbox?

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So with a seedbox its basically an offsite swrver that you tell to download the files you want, rhen you download them direct from the seedbix. Because theyre dedicated servers you get better download and upload speeds for preserving your ratio, you don't have to use local storage to seed things, and it can be safer if your seed box is in another country because your isp doesn't see any torrent traffic.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...but if you're paying for that seedbox with your credit card, aren't you creating a pretty clear paper trail between you and your piracy?

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If the seedbox is in a country that doesn't care about torrenting and is hosted by a company that doesn't care, they're the only ones who would be aware of it. It's not illegal to pay for a server or to download files from your server.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What countries don't care about torrenting? Surely most countries with decent bandwidth are signed up to WIPO?

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 22 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Discovery's David Zaslav have also indicated that their services were initially priced "too low" in an effort to draw a huge and unendingly expanding subscriber base.

In the early-to-mid 2010s, a subscription to Netflix and Hulu and your friend’s borrowed HBO password could get you access to the vast majority of all the TV that was worth watching.

Netflix had a huge archive of older shows plus a slowly growing library of its buzzy releases like Orange Is the New Black, Jessica Jones, and Stranger Things.

Not content to let Netflix have what looked like a lucrative new market all to itself the companies that made and distributed TV decided one by one as the decade wore on that it was time to create their own apps and generate their own subscription revenue.

Tech companies also decided to jump in, with Amazon Prime Video pushing into expensive scripted dramas and Apple TV+ becoming relevant by dint of throwing untold gobs of money at all kinds of projects.

Netflix announced its first subscriber loss in a decade in early 2022, cratering its stock; despite some recovery, it's still only worth about two-thirds what it was at its peak in late 2021.


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[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
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