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The investigation is tied to an incident on an Alaska Airlines flight in early January. Boeing also told a Senate panel that it cannot find a record of the work done on the Alaska plane.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I assume Boeing's response to this criminal inquiry will be a stock buyback.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How else will their stock price go up amidst all this controversy lol.

Accountability should be held at the top. If they can benefit from cost cutting that can potentially kill people through negligence, they need to face criminal consequences for doing so.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Not potentially.

MCAS did kill several hundred people just a few years ago.

A system Boeing put in place and snuck past regulators specifically to deploy a cheaply developed product that could compete with airbus.

The executives at Boeing already have blood on their hands. They should have faced manslaughter charges for the 2 flights that went down due to MCAS.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Only after they lay off the subcontracted QA department

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Increase their lobbying budget too

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Oh Mr Oliver, thank you for imparting your wisdom.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be. It's just the bog standard corporate pursuit of profit at the expense of all else. Cutting corners, ignoring safety, rushing everything, and all with fewer people to do the work than are necessary. If Boeing is found criminally guilty for that half the corporations in the US are in trouble.

No, this is just political theater, much like the TSA is. Boeing has fucked up enough that people are starting to take notice, so this is just a little reminder to them that they need to stop fucking up quite so publicly. The executives will sweat a little, temporarily improve things, and then go right back to their usual bullshit in a year or two when things calm down. Worst case scenario they'll put out a series of BP style "We're sorry" videos where they emphasize how much quality and safety supposedly mean to them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be.

I doubt that you know whether Boeing has or has not broken any laws.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The FAA and the DOJ are not the same as TSA. Not at all.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Slap on the wrist incoming

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah thats about the extent of consequences for American corps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The CEO of Boeing is running for president!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Can't be sued right now, he's running for president....20 years later... still running for president....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Slap on the wrist? More likely they'll get the Federal Legislature to send in another multi-billion dollar bail-out.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Somehow I doubt American Ju$tice will jail the executive who went laughing all the way to bank with the bonuses they made from cutting corners in design, manufacturing and QA, cutting costs down to the bone and using Boeing employees acting as in-house FAA "representatives" to self-certify the pieces of junk Boeing now makes.

(As somebody else pointed out, the deaths attributable to such practices, namelly in the MCAS debacle, should've been treated as manslaughter).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Its a functional state-financed monopoly that isn't owned or operated by the state and gets to charge taxpayers an absurd markup per unit by passing every expenditure through half a dozen shell companies that each get to squeeze out profit on the margins.

But hey, we get the latest in aviation technology, right? Not like they're just churning out lemons that fall apart in midair.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm making four flights soon with the Boeing 737 Max 8. I'm sure the software is probably all updated and debugged properly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I also took an iPad course.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's never too late to write your will. Just don't take it with you, leave it with a close reltive.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boeing assures you everything is properly debugged. Only known issues is that the engines could explode if the anti-icing is accidentally turned on, but the pilots have got a foolproof plan to avoid killing everyone with the flip of a switch:

Post-it note in cockpit saying "ENGINE Anti-Ice 5 mins"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Trust me bro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The likelihood that there will be anything wrong with your flights is minuscule. A hundred thousand planes fly around the Earth every single day and they almost never have any issues.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just flew on two flights both 737 Max 8.

I figure after a disaster there is more scrutiny, so these could be the safest planes to fly on right now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well after the first disaster the side fell off of a a second plane, so I'm not sure I'd risk it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s not supposed to do that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I figure after a disaster there is more scrutiny

I thought that half a dozen accidents ago. Now I'm a bit less confident.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Rosie the riveter is getting old and can't keep up with the assembly speed...

2 years jail for Rocie for riveting slowly

2 weeks community service for the CEO who required managers to push Rocie faster

I'm a manager, so I'm pretty sure we're blameless lol.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wonder if John Oliver had anything to do with it by bringing attention.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Nah, the door blowing off the airplane was world news. The 2 Boeing crashes a handful of years ago were world news. It's a massive American company. The writing has been on the wall for a while.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ummm, it's a long going story which John reported quite late actually

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There was a documentary about Boeing that was very detailed and it was largely ignored. Oliver's platform helped get the problem the attention it deserved.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well you can trust them, kuf, kuf...

Boeing 777 weel fall off:

https://youtu.be/BeGo79nRMwU?si=S_9Of9EJyhTNhSrY

Boeing 737 Max 8 leanding gear colapse:

https://youtu.be/BeGo79nRMwU?si=S_9Of9EJyhTNhSrY

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