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[–] [email protected] 282 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lacy said the family also reported that after the shooting, the family was forced out of the home while officers “rummaged through their house looking for any justification for shooting and killing Ryan”.

Not a good look.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't care how bad it looks cause they get away with it

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Probably should go watch the actual video: https://dailycaller.com/2024/03/11/ryan-gainer-video-deputy-fatally-shooting-15-year-old-boy-autism/?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral

He's told to drop it, and literally chases the officer out of the house with it trying to kill him. Bodycam from 2 angles.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Edit: Ok, I read the article. Yeah, him charging at the cop with that tool was a really bad move. I still think the situation could have been handled differently. Could have.

Tasers, batons, or just run away. Diffuse the situation. Imagine a judge saying "You charged against a cop with a gardening tool? Sentenced to DEATH!"

The boy didn't get a fair trial. He was murdered with no justification.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a father of a child with Autism I feel I am more than adequately equipped to respond to this.

I don't think many, if any, neurotypical people understand how Autism can impact a person's ability to process the world in a way that is deemed "normal". This child may not be verbal, may have aggression issues, may have a learning disability, etc.

The last thing that should have happened is someone pulling a gun.

I cry thinking something like this could happen with my son. All it takes is one bad interaction with someone who has absolutely no experience with Autism and this can happen.

For anyone reading this, do yourself a favour. Volunteer with autistic people. It could be at school or in the community but you all need to learn that Autism does not look like the doctor in The Good Doctor.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even have to open the article to see the boy's skin color. And I'm not remotely shocked.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Bodycam video

Officer was backing away from the kid, and turned to run away from him. The officer was actively retreating from the attack at the time the shots were fired.

Two officers were present. It is not clear from the video who fired the shots. It is very clear, however, that the kid was actively attacking the officer.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Yea sadly the kid was an aggressor here

But the cops should be using tazers or something non-lethal to deal with this kinda altercation

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Too bad there aren't things cops could do other than murder when this sort of thing happens.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are great questions as to whether it was appropriate to use deadly force against a 15-year-old autistic kid who was having an episode,

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooh, I can answer this one:

No

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Another child murdered.

I will not shed a single tear for when cops get shot and killed.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (14 children)

US cops really have stored up an incredible amount of badwill, haven't they? Now, I can't help but see Nolan's Batman film (whichever the one is with cops in tunnels), Brooklyn 99 and others as straight up copaganda. Just zero sympathy. The balance will shift at some point, it has to.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

To be fair Brooklyn 99 dunks on cops. Like a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cops killing children dealing with mental help episodes and get rewarded with more funding is something that makes me sick. Body Cam footage shouldn't depend on if cops feel like releasing it should be sent to an independent party automatically. RIP Ryan.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (12 children)

So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense... Do you think the criminal justice system will hand-wave it away as easily as this?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense…

The thing is, liberals want to see this as some kind of exercise in fairness. "Oh if can shoot me then I can shoot them!"

No. This is a gang-violence thing. The MS-13 gang member can shoot you because he's got a gun and years of psychological scarring and a willingness to kill to survive. You can't shoot the gang member, because all his buddies will show up at your house, hold you down and skin your dog alive while you're forced to watch, then bust out all your teeth and hang you out to dry as an example.

Cops work the same way.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (14 children)

For some reason this is unpopular, but I don't think a police officer should be allowed to remove their firearm from its holster until actual assault has occurred, unless non-police citizens are in danger.

A cop merely being scared should never be a reason somebody dies.

If you can't handle the pressure, don't be a fucking cop.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (22 children)

This piece of shit couldn't fight a 15 year old with a hoe? What a coward. One gut punch and the kid would have folded like a lawn chair.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Poor kid must have been planting oak trees. The pig thought they were preventing a future massacre.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (72 children)

Let's list all items that do not look like a gun during a police encounter. I'll start:

Small puppy Couch Basketball Bucket full of fruit Ice

I can't think of anymore at the moment. There's bound to be one or two other items.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So for context my local PD dealt with a fine gentleman who attacked a security guard in his car dual wielding a hatchet and metal pipe. They spent several hours trying to talk him down before charging him with a shield and arresting him without much further ado. If you guessed he was white you guessed correctly.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Society failed this boy. More spending on medical research, and care could have prevented this event. But instead we spend way more money on killing more people in other countries. And the medical research could help those who serve in the military as well. But no, must cut those costs as much as posdible.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

TLDR: What is the "5 foot garden tool"? That's all I want to know!

So many details and blame thrown about, but suddenly vague on "gardening tool?" It was 5 feet of something. A rake? A scythe? A stick?

It sort of matters what is in your hands when you approach police; not that that's ever a good idea. Even with a disability, he could be dangerous.

I'm astounded by The Guardian. How does an article explain is such detail the events of an altercation and aftermath yet space so terribly on such basic information?

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (66 children)

Maybe don't take a job of protecting and serving if a kid with a gardening tool is a bit too frightening for you to handle non-lethally.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, the kid didn't have something dangerous like an acorn.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too bad he wasn't a big white man with a knife! Then the cops would have tried to talk him down!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Aren't police carrying non-lethal stuff like tasers and trained in deescalation techniques that could be used to subdue someone without shooting them?

Edit: not 'desecration', although maybe they are

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