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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It probably didn't help that at the beginning they said the cloth didn't help, then changed the messaging later on.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

IIRC, that initial “don’t use surgical masks” statement was because hospitals were already facing shortages, and a rush on the supply would have caused massive widespread longstanding shortages. Basically, the hospitals needed disposable masks, so the CDC told people not to use disposable masks.

But it was also in that brief time period between surgical masks and reusable cloth masks. So the messaging was basically just “don’t use ~~disposable~~ masks” because the “disposable” part was implied because it’s all that was commonly available on the market. Plus cloth masks hadn’t been studied yet. So when cloth masks were proven to work and the CDC started recommending them, the naysayers fell back to that initial messaging from when the cloth masks were unavailable and unproven.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The messaging could have been clearer but I'll spell it out for the dumb.

Phase 1:

Don't panic buy medical supplies expecting them to protect you. We don't have enough, and frontline healthcare workers need them to protect themselves and others, you don't know how to wear them and they probably don't fit you properly.

Phase 2:

We still don't really have enough medical grade masks but just fyi: any sort of mouth covering will reduce the risk of a contagious person sneezing into the mouth of a vulnerable person. If you have to go out, please wear something over your face. Cotton is better than nothing.

Phase 3:

A tight fitting mask really is best, it limits a contagious person's generation of aerosolized clouds of viruses, and limits a vulnerable person's exposure to clouds of aerosolized viruses.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Ship no go. Can you make it go?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Are we really still pretending the mask I got from the front bin of Home Depot actually works?

Can we look at the other claims the government "scientists" claimed to see how they were not real scientists?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Are we really still pretending the mask I got from the front bin of Home Depot actually works?

Are we still pretending <100% effectiveness = worthless? (Just kidding, I know folks are.)

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The cheap, dumpy masks are still going to somewhat reduce your intake of particles and significantly reduce your output, which is their main point.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (13 children)

And yet social distancing was "obvious" because scientists said it u til they admitted they pretty much just made that distance up.

That's why there's an Appeal from Authority fallacy... But you just keep on trusting what ever they say with out questioning it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you don't think masks work?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

99% of medicine is throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

Social distancing was an easy way to make it less likely to spread based on similar viruses. Until they had more verifiable ways it was a quick and cheap answer to a complex problem. Sometimes those are necessary, especially when millions of lives are on the line.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s “appeal TO authority, genius.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you have to let the virus out if you want to get rid of it. Why do you think there's that saying about having to pass a cold along?

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