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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I read "brutish" as "british" on first glance

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More often than not that has been the case :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Much less often than not, by a colossal margin. They did have a good run, though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, and I was like well if the shoe fits...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I can't find any differences

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which surprisingly does not change the meaning as much, as one would think it would.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (31 children)

This feels dangerously close to some EnlightenedCentrism nonse

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure whether the version of this I saw previously was the original and this post was cropped, or if this post is the original and the other text was added later. But I much prefer the context here:

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Ahh see this I can get behind, reminds me of the Soviet anti alcohol poster that's become a meme too

Good original intent, less good modern applications

The dawn of nationalism was definitely the mistake of the previous age I think. Peoples should be able to self govern autonomously, but not under a guise of "the nation" which inherently forms an out group to be excluded.

I like the Arabic/American way to do it, "You wanna be one of us? Well then you're already half way there!"

I speak very little Arabic but my teacher has told me that I already know enough to get the long list cousin's welcome among most L1 speakers lol.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah i've learned not to trust this kind of simmetrical worldview, even when it makes me feel smart for being above it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hmmm it's almost as if politics and ethics are very nuanced and one answer is never correct in every situation..

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One side thinks the answer is "do fascism", so I think it may be fair to conclude that one of the proposed answers is at least wrong in every situation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, every right-wing politician is pushing for 'do fascism'

Probably like they did your mom last night. BOOM GOTCHA

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

One faction has a messiah fixation, thumps a Bible they've never even read (they just let some pastor tell them what's in it), obsesses over guns and other peoples' private (by which I mean sexual) lives and reproductive organs. They've been told and so believe that Sodom and Gomorrah was about the sex, but it was about righteousness and hospitality - and these are two things that they themselves lack completely.

There is a real problem, a real danger, because it fits historical patterns we've seen before - the so-called "ideas" that they spout with the language that they use - and they end up mindlessly, senselessly bringing EVERYBODY down with them.

They are a menace to all of us. Including themselves, but they don't see it. And neither does the "both sides" argument, a lazy excuse for not acknowledging that the proverbial emperor has no clothes.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

no, you're just so lost in years of political memes that you can't understand a simple point anymore. this isn't about fuckin Russia or fascism or the election. it's about demonizing and polarizing our equals. and you've clearly eaten that fuckin bait in one bite, you're experiencing so much cognitive disonancia that you can't even see beyond your own petty politics and just worry that OMG SOMEONE ISNT CALLING THE THING I DONT LIKE A BAD THING ITS BAD BAD BAD CMON thats this entire fucking thread and the entire political landscape around here, no I'm not okay and none of you are. I'm so fucking sick of internet politics and everyone's fucking unnuanced cliches and worthless calls to arms

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Good God it's like I can hear how white you are!

That's a pretty easy opinion to have when that "difference of opinions" isn't over your right to live and be considered a full human with full and equitable human rights.

This sounds more like you're lashing out because someone NCed you after getting tired of your peacekeeper complex moving you to try and shut them up whenever they were getting into it with the weird uncle at Thanksgiving because "you're the reasonable one come on please just take the high road here!"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I feel like the artist originally wanted to make this primarily medieval themed. But then realisied "Oh yeah, news and stuff are a thing." And then just added laptops and antennas.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

It’s been added on to. The original didn’t have the radio towers or “time out” area

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone shared a different version that doesn't have those newer stuff. That might've been the original.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/7948433

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The font is slightly different as well

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are there disinformation campaigns from the EU targeting the russian population?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but englightened centralism means facts don't matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I see this as more anti-nationalism than any kind of centrism.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet there are, just a matter of scale and effectiveness.

There's an organization that sneaks usb drives to North Korea. Full of news, shows, articles etc all hand picked by former NK citizens that defected

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

But is it disinformation?

Spreading information is not the same as spreading lies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm sure it's not all 100% objective truth. Nobody wants to talk shit about themselves willingly. But yeah just sayin.

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I think about this whenever I see legislative efforts to "prevent disinformation" XD

I hate disinformation as much as the next guy, but we gotta be careful who we give charte blanche to censor information XD

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PURPLE GOOD YELLOW BAD 😤😤

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Typical sense of entitlement from a purple, they're all the same, that primitive purple brain can't comprehend other light waves exist.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More moronic both sides shit?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Class: Say the line, Bart!

Bart: This is whataboutism

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except that,

  • Our objective news - is really just a mess of different slants, some being propaganda, that are not censured even when their content approaches slander due to heavy political bias.

  • Our combating disinformation - is largely unexisting to the point that several large social media providers have abolished or acted against the control they had for doing so and that their CEOs shamelessly meet with presidential candidates with ties to them.

  • Our glorious leader - is hardly accepted as a glorious leader and the portion of the society that does also tend to have absolutely no qualms about becoming more authoritarian by their own admission.

  • Our great religion - is criticized within the country and an increasing number of people are becoming atheists.

  • Our noble populace - Our heroic adventures - Ok, who is writing this meme? Who thinks their society thinks this way? Half the other populace disagrees with the other half, even going so far as to be described as hate, and any mythos of heroic is easily dismissed the moment it becomes convenient to do so not to mention the amount of criticism armed forces get.

This is whataboutism 101. Not all sides are completely black and white, but not all sides are equally grey.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think this comic was about you or your country. It's about how nationalists frame things in their own vs. other countries.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole point is that the two nations are the same, but some of the population doesn't see it that way. Of course our news is filled with propaganda, that's what this meme is saying. Of course our troops are carrying out the whims of a despot. But blind nationalism paints these as the right and true path.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nice job writing an essay on completely missing the point

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's worth pointing out that the two opposing countries / nations / city states in this cartoon would have to have similar governments with similar charters, and similar selection processes for their representatives.

It is lunacy to say things like "Obummer was a dictator!" when he was selected twice by people voting, and then peaceably left the office after his two terms completely in line with the Constitution.

Now can you say the same thing about, for instance, Putin?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What I get from this image is that one side will call the other side evil while the other side will do the same

It's best to look at the actions of a person or group rather than what they state they are doing

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nation-states were a bad idea

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Alternatives?

I see 2:

  • full hegemonic domination of one nation state where everyone gets their basics met. Star trek style.

  • intense local tribalism where you're doing a whole lot more defending your land than you are now

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Or maybe there’s a dozen alternatives that could work better and both of us are staring at this from the bottom of a pro-hierarchy well that we’ve been stuck in ever since one guy convinced another one he should be in charge.

I don’t have a full solution, I just want us to be flexible enough to figure one (or more) out.

“The international ideal unites the human race”

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a reason the Geneva Convention (and the Hague protocols before it) prohibit assassination. That reason is that the Glorious Leader and the Wicked Despot have more in common with each other than they do with us peons. Don't anyone get too excited during our "war" (population reduction, economic stimulus package, domestic troubles distraction). Invest in defense contractors, the elite will keep them fed.

Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.

True, and you also have to remember that many of them have it ingrained in their culture to hate enough to kill gays, other religious people, races, etc.

Despite how much people love to say one culture isn't better than any other... There absolutely are if you're looking through a lens of equality. Particularly if you've grown up in a more westernized nation where non-perfect progress has been made on those points.

Let's just hope the west doesn't continue turning into Yallqaeda and all the lost Fascists suddenly earn a Herman Cain award.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Rule of the world. The most violent ape gets to continue his lineage. To continue to pretend that we're more than violent apes is naive.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It is divide and conquer vs. unite and rule. You don't rule over people about to go at each other.

Whatever this things reeks of both sideism. Which is another way to feel superior without learning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Make Purple Great Again!

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