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(Title shamelessly stolen from this comment in the crossposted [email protected] thread.)

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Umm that's not exactly what they're saying.

It would update a 27-year-old law to create three new classes of electric bikes based on the type of motor and how fast they can go.

Hell the ACTUAL statute is just defining what a e-bike is. You can see it here: https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2024r1/Measures/Overview/HB4103

It does say class 1 can be operated by anyone, but 2 and 3 can be limited to 16 and older. Yes that's more restrictive then the past, but really it's "Defining the e-bikes" because they were poorly defined based on an almost hundred year old law.

That being said it does limit the top speed of an e-bike to 28 miles an hour, I assume above that it's now a motocycle, and honestly, that might be a good thing, because at that speed they no will come out of no where (hell at 20-30 miles an hour they still will)

This is hardly as bad as the title.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

So it's literally to prevent 9 year olds going 50 on an e-bike. Seems fair to me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Damn 1997 was 100 years ago? How time flies...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Do they at least require insurance on anything that goes faster than 15 mph or similar?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

If only.

Maybe we could get signage that clearly displays a bike's information such that a hit & run wouldn't be impossibly easy. Maybe we could make it made of Metal so it's durable. Call it a License Plate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (24 children)

As far as I read/understand, nope. But if it does limit the assistance to 28 miles an hour, that might be required if the bike goes above that speed. (Note: that's only the point where the power would stop assisting, not the fastest speed the bike can do.)

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's hilarious, so some sites just Apple-gatekeep potential viewers?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a european, I don't feel like I'm missing out. If a site has too many ads or popups, I'm inclined to click it away anyways.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Haven't seen ads it a while, uBlock Origin rocks.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's sites gatekeeping their dodgy tracking cookie policies.

US companies don't want to comply with data protection rules of other territories, so they block our access, just so they can continue their exploitative tracking

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It’s because the EU actually governs the storage and use/sale of personal data. This is the mark of a sketchy company that doesn’t want to comply with basic privacy requirements.

If you’re in the EU and you see this, it’s probably a good thing, and it means even the US viewers shouldn’t be visiting the site. Because the EU laws aren’t even that restrictive or difficult to comply with.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

This honestly makes me furious:

A 15-year-old boy... e-bike

the teen was riding with a passenger on the back.

They were riding ... on the sidewalk

The teen who died was not wearing a helmet, police said.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know about Oregon, but I see how people ride their e-bikes here in NYC and it makes me suspect that most e-bike/car collisions are the e-bike's fault.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm from Toronto, same. Also as a pedestrian, those ebikers scare me the way cars scare them. They're not allowed on the sidewalk in my city, but you'll be walking with your toddler and an ebike speeds past you on the sidewalk almost hitting you. And they'll switch between sidewalk and road depending on the traffic, so I have no love for ebikers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame the city not the biker. An person riding an bike will always choose a protected bike lane over having to weave through pedestrians on the sidewalk. If you want to get mad at someone get mad at the city for not putting down a bike lane instead of the biker just trying to not get hit. Pedestrians and cyclist need to have solidarity to take back the road from there dominance by cars. Fighting between each other over the scraps they give us only helps them, we need to demand more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No. The city didn't zip past me and my kids, it was the biker. My city is filled with unused bike lanes as the bikes zip around the sidewalk

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Well we clearly need to make it even more illegal then" -The Government

(Although technically was 16 year olds not allowed to ride e-bikes? If so then this is more permissive, because it says 16 year olds can ride class 1 bikes)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They're not actually. They just needed to define what e-bikes are as a by-the-by because so far it had not been defined.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bill creates three classifications of electric bicycles. Class 1 ebikes only provide assistance when a rider is actively pedaling and stops its motor when the bike reaches 20 mph. Class 2 ebikes can be propelled without pedaling and top out at 20 mph. And Class 3 ebikes require pedaling, come with a speedometer and top out at 28 mph.

Levy initially proposed allowing anyone, regardless of age, to use a Class 1 electric bicycle and making it a traffic violation for a child younger than 16 to use a Class 2 or Class 3 ebike. But as passed by the House, the bill would ban ebikes for anyone younger than 16 who doesn’t have a driver’s license or permit. Anyone 16 or older can use any ebike.

Hmmm. I think high school is when there might be a real need for an Ebike so I'd go with that age.

What age can you get a driver's license? Does a learners license count?

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