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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We seem to like to draw a line between crimes where the damages caused are visible from those where the damages caused are less visible, but its undoubtable that the crimes of the wealthy, so called white collar crimes, cause just as real material pain and suffering and societal damage.

If anything, the consequences of a crime should be scaled by your wealth and privileged in a society, because you really have no excuse for not following the law. Earn above a million dollars a year? Well a parking ticket costs you 10s of thousands of dollars? Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

Making these people members of the working class is a fate worse than death.

I think we should just do that.

[–] leftzero 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but at least tar and feather them first.

[–] az04@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The state shouldn't be in the business of killing people.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

While true, billionaires shouldn't be in the business of existing.

[–] Hooverx@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$12 billion dollars is the equivalent of the 1.3 million years of work in vietnam. that's the livelihoods of more than 34000 people, stolen to profit one person.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Vietnamese government does things like this on a cyclical basis. Every rich person here and everyone in government is corrupt as fuck. The president resigned a few hours ago over corruption. The president before him resigned just over a year ago over corruption. They're all stealing money. New government comes in and puts the old government in jail for corruption. A newer government comes in and puts that government in jail for corruption. Death sentences for people in top positions and bankers and whoever else. But they're all corrupt. Everyone above middle class here is corrupt.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Completely agree. Except for billionaires. Kill them all and do something useful for society with their money.

[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not for fraud, no.

It's okay to execute child rapists, though.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not even then. There are countless examples of corrupt prosecutors pushing through convictions because they want a win, even when it was clear the accused was innocent.

Without an absolutely perfect system of justice, I'm not willing to trust the state with executions in any circumstances.

[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are countless examples of corrupt prosecutors pushing through convictions because they want a win, even when it was clear the accused was innocent.

Can you share any?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Florida is trying to pass a law like this while also trying to pass a law that brands trans people as sex offenders

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you give the state a reason they’re allowed to kill people they’ll find a reason to argue that the people they don’t like fit that reason

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 85 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I'm not. Imprison her for life, but the death penalty is never acceptable as long as there's even the slightest chance of a false conviction. As long as "the system" can get it wrong, it should not be allowed to carry out irreversible punishments.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying and I can't say I disagree, but conversely:

Eat the rich

[–] leftzero 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, prions are terrifying, so eating the rich is not a practical possibility.

Now, feeding them alive to the big cats at the zoo, on the other hand, would serve the same purpose, and entertain the kitties to boot, which the brain control parasites my kittens have infected me with tell me is a good thing, and since we don't eat them or anything that eats them there's no risk of prion spread, at least until deer chronic wasting disease inevitably spreads to humans and kills us all.

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As they say, there are no ~~moral~~ ethical billionaires. In order to enrich themselves so much over their peers, they have necessarily trampled over them.

I do agree that giving a government the official power to just execute whoever they want (it would be trivial to manufacture a case like this in Vietnam) is a very bad precedent to set.

But, I mean, Vietnam is an authoritarian government, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.

[–] Hooverx@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

communist country executes bourgeois, capitalists horrified

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[–] danh2os@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Over 9000 dong, 4% of their GDP.

[–] jwt@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really shouldn't call their P gross.

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

Finally, some good news!

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The guillotine you say?

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole country is corrupt, it's just so open and brazen. No one would be left alive if they did this to anyone guilty.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Seriously. Traveling to Vietnam was eye-opening. We did nothing good to that country and then they did nothing to help themselves afterwards, probably because of all the good ol' American Corruption that came after we firebombed it back to the stone age.

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Wtf are you on about? I've been to Vietnam several times and the progress they have achieved in such a short period of time is incredible. They have built megacities on the ground where the yanks firebombed. Have you been to Da Nang? Walked around HCMC? Spoken to the people? They are evidently working against the corruption, as we can see in this article, whereas where I live everyone knows the govt sends cash to their buddies and no one can do anything about it? (The UK)

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, corruption there is rampant. Very capitalist and authoritarian also

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not exactly known for human rights support.

On the other hand, they actually stopped a genocide in living memory, which is more than you can say for most nations.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

According to the article, she siphoned off a lot of dong.

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