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This sounds like immature project drama. I've seen it before where there's a large, professionally maintained product and people make forks to add small changes and then different forks start fighting with each other over because it's their features and they don't want other forks to incorporate them. You should probably just avoid Floorp if possible.
Damn, guess I go back to regular Firefox
[2024-03-23T09:29:01-0400] [ALPM] removed floorp-bin-debug (11.10.5-1)
[2024-03-23T09:29:01-0400] [ALPM] removed floorp-bin (11.11.1-1)
awful name
I think you mean a great name
Nah they got it right the first time.
I'll take "didn't get the point of FOSS" for $3.14.
What the heck.
Feels like what happened to Emby to me.
(hugs Jellyfin)
eli5?
It’s an open source browser based on Firefox with additional features and configuration tweaks.
Except they recently made part of it proprietary and hid the source code for that, so most other people cannot actually build the same one.
They claim they will make that part open source too, eventually, and it is due to behavior of another browser: https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-core/issues/62
They do say that
They will be using a different repository with a different license for some of its new features
"different license" suggests to me it might be a proprietary/fauxpen source licene, since this is explicitly being done to punish a fork.
It may be. The person saying that has contributed artwork but is not the maintainer. It is a bad look though. It sounds like they want to build the next release in secret so the fork can’t release features first.
I wonder if it's Midori
Yeah. The maintainer said in their blog post they're looking for a license that lets people read the code but not fork it. Isn't that just standard American copyright?
Edit: Looks like they went with CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 Deed (Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International). So not an open source license and one that CC themselves recommends not using for software.
Huh, that's very valuable context.
Some time ago, a bunch of really smart people wanted to be able to modify software, so it can never be broken since they can fix it. Thus began open source, which is having a piece of software tell everybody exactly how to make it. Meanwhile, many companies don't want people to modify their software, usually because they don't want people easily competing with them and bankrupting them due to creating a better modification. Such software that isn't open source is termed "proprietary".
Floorp was one of these open source softwares. Some ambitious Japanese people modified Firefox, added some features and customizations, and named it "Floorp".
Recently, these people decided, for whatever reason, to stop the public from being able to access some of the materials and configurations for making Floorp. They did this by creating a new "warehouse" to store these materials, sealing off the access to it, and replacing the original location of the now proprietary materials with a note that tells you the location of the warehouse you can't get in.
(Hopefully that wasn't confusing...)
Thanks for the edit and link to discussion, I am a FireDragon (Floorp fork) user and it seems like this issue is in hand and I'm not going to be concerned for the moment.
What are some things you like about FireDragon that make you use it over others?
I use Garuda Linux and FireDragon is maintained by the same people so it's been customised to have the same look. FireDragon was previously a fork of Librewolf (another fork of Firefox I have always liked), so I just switched over to FireDragon to try it out. I'd also used Floorp in the past and really liked that, so to have FireDragon and Floorp become one was really nice. FireDragon is nifty and has the privacy focus that LibreFox has. Garuda Linux is also a really nice distro and a lot of care and effort has gone into it - it also has a Plasma version for gamers... which is lovely for me. It's late and this is a dreadfully rambling answer... but hopefully you get the idea (roughly!) 😅
This blog from the maintainer makes it clear they have no interest in open source other than to advertise their own skills
I do agree the name is stupid, but I love the browser!