LibertyLizard

This is a classic mistake partisans of all types make. The supporters of our enemies are not a monolith. Sure, most will react negatively but some will like these ideas.

A lot of republicans support the party because they mistakenly think Trump and his allies are fighting against some evil cabal that controls society to make their lives miserable. These policies can help break through that misinformation, if it is shared through avenues that reach people. Fox News, for all its flaws, is one such place.

For the record, he’s a democratic socialist, not a social democrat. These are distinct, though related movements. The difference between them, which you seem confused about, is that socialists do not uphold the capitalist class, despite your claims. Social democrats want to retain capitalism, while democratic socialists do not.

However, democratic socialists do have differences of opinion with more radical socialists on the best way to achieve the socialized means of production they aim for. They favor reform over revolution.

You are welcome to disagree with this view but it’s not a good reason to view their socialism as false or insincere.

No need to reply, since we already established that you’re not interested in good faith discourse. But I couldn’t leave this misinformation unchallenged.

PTB. Not sure what is false or misleading about the fact that many European politicians support the Israeli occupation, or that some do criminalize pro-Palestinian political action.

I know what socialism means. I wanted to hear your interpretation of the facts regarding Mamdani, since this is a contentious topic, and socialism is a broad tradition. But I see now it was a waste of time to expect serious discourse from you.

I guess that’s a yes. I was genuinely curious to hear the case that he’s not a socialist but it doesn’t seem you have much basis for this opinion.

I’m talking about Mamdani specifically though. Or are you just assuming that based on your feelings about the US in general?

He calls himself one, do you have cause to doubt it?

The concept of citizenship itself is flawed beyond redemption.

But I agree with the broader point. States should do whatever they can to protect their residents from fascist violence.

We all knew who Cuomo was. His backers have no one to blame but themselves for thinking so little of voters that they would simply forget his many scandals.

Tankies have redefined a wide variety of words in ways that are completely unrecognizable to other speakers of their languages. Empire and imperialism are prominent examples. So I suspect, if you understood the way he’s using the word, the statement would be accurate. But of course, one also needs to acknowledge that their definitions are carefully crafted for political ends, including the deception of unsuspecting people.

On the other hand, if you aren’t at least vaguely familiar with what they’re talking about, it can also make them appear to be complete lunatics.

Sure, but I think it undermines democrats who have been willing to go to bat for Mamdani like Jerry Nadler and Chris Van Hollen.

I’d like to see as much praise for these people as we see condemnation of people like Gillibrand. The democrats are genuinely split here and it would be valuable to see the correct side come out on top.

Haha no worries.