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[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is absolutely bonkers, halts 10% of the US GDP overnight and will spark civil unrest if it goes on too long.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 months ago (2 children)

... will spark civil unrest ...

Don't tease me.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They want that so they have an excuse to deploy the military against civilians.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

He’s already said he’s thinking of using the insurrection act to invoke martial law within the next 90 days.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I can't stand comments like this. You act like civil unrest won't get people hurt, or maybe even killed.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Birthing pains, bro. Birthing pains.

Positive change doesn't come without sacrifice.

If you wanna make an omelette, some people gotta die.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Easy to say that on the internet. I don't see anybody picking up their pitch forks to stop this.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We tried back in November, but too many people were screeching about BlUeMaGa, bOtHSiDeS and gEnoCiDe jOe

So it is what it is

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those folks pale in comparison to the Dems not bothering to say they’d change anything.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump: IM GOING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY

Dems: We're not going to do that and we'll do A and B

You: WHAT ABOUT Z AND Y!!! FUCK YOU WE'LL GIVE THIS COUNTRY TO TRUMP000!!!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We needed Democrats to run a campaign that could actually win. Defending their indefensible stances on issues like the border and Israel lost Democrats this election. You fucking gave this country to Trump, not the critics of Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

True. You are 100% right. People want to blame non voters when the Dems ran with the explicit policy of fucking those people over. They say vote blue no matter who and they fucking lost. Welcome to the real solution. Go left or die.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or rather, people continuously excused the rightward shift of Democrats, resulting in them thinking they dint need to be responsible to responding to their base, which they largely abandoned.

But sure, keep blaming the voters instead of those that held power and could have actually changed strategy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We already had an answer for that, RCV and other FPTP alternatives were spreading just fine, all that had to happen was to keep Orange Face out of office last election and the Democrats would have fallen later. After Drump was in jail and MAGA imploded

But nooo, y'all fell for quite possibly a right-wing propaganda campaign and now we're all paying for it

But we sure taught the DNC a lesson at those polls amiright!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You show the complete inability to understand why Democrats lost this election, and seem to be doing what it takes to keep it that way. There is an ilk who in the run-up, could not withstand any criticism of Democrats, in part or whole. The silenced any call for redress in the policies Democrats campaigned on or the strategies they were using. Democrats felt no pressure to shift towards policies more popular with the electorate and lost, expectedly.

It was obvious then that they were going to lose. But any criticism of their approach was told to STFU, that you were a Russian shill or bot, whatever. Had the, frankly, intentionally ignorant cowards, making these apologist arguments actually focused their criticisms against Democrats, we did have time to move them towards more popular positions in the run-up to the convention and the few weeks afterwards. Those who refused to hear or accept the valid criticisms levied against Democrats did more to support Trump than any other cohort. Blue MAGA, the sycophants and apologists of the Democratic party, handed this election to Trump on a silver platter and that won't be forgotten. Their intentional naivety around how politics actually functions changes nothing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Based on the election results, the "policies more popular with the electorate" were fascist ones. More Americans voted for fascism than didn't.

How could Democrats do this???

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Based on the election results, the “policies more popular with the electorate” were fascist ones. More Americans voted for fascism than didn’t.

Obviously not among Democrats. Votership among Democrats was massively down. It turns out you actually DO need to give something for people to vote for. "Orange Man Bad" doesn't work as a campaign strategy when there are almost no substantive differences in policy between one party and the other. Hate it, but don't deny the truth of the fact, that you actually have to get voters excited to show up and vote for your candidate.

Harris could have made her campaign about Medicare4All, and frankly, she would have won.

Harris could have identified the fact that Israel was engaging in a genocide and that she would not support that.

Harris could have done any number of things to break with a status quo that is functionally not working for people, and she chose not to. Her literal campaign argument was "more of the same". She made the choice to proceed with a strategy, that, obvious to everyone as early as fucking January of last year, was not going to work. Biden and his policies were DEEEEEEEPLY unpopular. There were analytics on him back in March showing him having less than a snowballs chance in hell at winning the election, and it only got worse from there. And it was his policies; his governance. And instead of breaking with those polices and style of governance, Harris doubled, practically tripled down on them. And it was obvious and called out as a mistake at the time.

Blaming voters for your team losing is like blaming the rules of a game. Democrats fumbled the ball, massively, and want to blame the ref, or the court, or anyone but themselves. We could never fail, we can only be failed, is what will be written on the Democratic parties tombstone.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe crack a history book sometime and check out how we got all the nice freedoms we have now 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The history books for this haven't been written..

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

History tends to repeat itself. And clearly we haven't learned any lessons, so it's gonna repeat itself again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

German history 1933-1945.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Uh... have you been living under a rock? There have been multiple assassination attempts recently, one successful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One successful? What are you talking about, the shooter in the first one ended up dead.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Fair i guess. I assumed you were talking about the president.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

I can't stand comments like this. You act like people aren't going to be hurt and die without civil unrest.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would agree with you if they had mentioned people getting violent, but instead their tone is more like they hope something causes a change. They are not gleefully wishing for violence here imo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hard to tell, I was pointing out the joking tone of it. Bcz civil unrest isn't a joke, whether it's warranted or not. It ends up being scary for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I took it as gallows humor. But who knows. We are fucked right now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Since you're wondering aloud --

Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.

It's coming, let's get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

We are well past the point of shit being scary for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Rights are written in blood.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, the civil unrest will be from Republicans who somehow blame everyone else for their dear leader taking a shit on the country, again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Might actually break the spell. Granted, they’re morons, so it might not.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It won't. These people are stupid enough to cheer him on after his first term in office ended with a fucking insurrection. They don't give two shits about law or anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They do care about their own pocketbooks. Halting 10% of the economy is as bad or worse than Covid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

These morons were fine with covid except when it affected them personally, and even then they didn't care enough to vote against the person who undermined the covid response. They never blamed the Republicans for shutting down the government multiple times for no reason other than to obstruct a Dem president.

They are too stupid to link this to their suffering. They will just blame Dems based on whatever the orange turd says.