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Summary

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. accused Bernie Sanders of taking millions from Big Pharma during a heated exchange, but Sanders refuted the claim, stating his donations came from workers, not corporate PACs.

Kennedy repeatedly insisted Sanders was the top recipient of pharmaceutical money in 2020, but financial data shows no corporate PAC contributions to Sanders.

Meanwhile, Kennedy has profited from anti-vaccine activism, earning millions from lawsuits and speaking fees.

The debate ended without Kennedy answering whether he would guarantee health care for all as HHS secretary.

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[–] [email protected] 318 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Questioning Sanders’ integrity would be the last thing I’d want to do; especially if I were as ill-advised as RFK.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

RFK believes that he is above reproach. He is the delusional you get when you are born into massive wealth and privilege and think that you personally hit a home run. Completely surrounded by yes men his entire life. Trumpesk even.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Probably, I don’t particularly care about spelling as long as my point is made

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You should, or the point you make is we shouldn't listen to your point because you are barely literate 🤷?

Any machine you can write a lemmy comment on can also spell check. Not checking means you don't give a shit about what you write, so why should anyone else?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Point out the flaw in my argument? The whole point of writing is communication. If my message is received it did its job. I especially don’t give a shit about spelling on here because this is an anonymous account that I just shoot the breeze from.

But on a larger point codified grammar, spelling, etc are all just class signifiers that have literally nothing to do with clear communication or intelligence. Language is fluid by its very nature and spelling is as well. It behooves the reader to ignore things you find unintelligent based on superficial nonsense. Trying to understand a writers point based on their arguments is a much better strategy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No no no.

I didn't read your comment or your argument. I won't because I don't give a shit for one, and for two if you don't give a shit enough to proofread it it's obviously not worth the time.

You can descriptive grammar yourself right to the downvotes and don't give a shit pile. Sorry bout ya. It's "dumbesk".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You made my point:

It behooves the reader to ignore things you find unintelligent

And the rest of it makes no sense anyway because I don't think you can define "behoove".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

None of what you say is untrue, but if you don't conform to codified grammar, then you'll get harangued by a bunch of grammar apes that freak out as soon as you misspell something relatively minor, like -esque to -esk. Or you'll even just find yourself getting hit with a bunch of clarifying questions about what your specific spelling actually was. So oftentimes it's actually more fluid, and more clear, to use language that's more codified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hot take, their original reply was right and the only mistake they made was spending energy engaging further

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, yeah, you're right, feeding the troll is kind of a classic blunder, but I still think it makes sense not to go out of your way to give them any ammunition. Maybe I come off as a little victim blamey, but I don't think it's that serious

[–] RedditRefugee69 2 points 1 month ago

y mak many wurd wen u cn rd dis wel enuf rite? bro i ttly get u, dis idnt evn hrd 2 rede lyk at al

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I prefer -esk as it is less refined. A bit crude. Vulgar.

[–] RedditRefugee69 1 points 1 month ago

It's definitely a classic Englishizing a non-English word.

"Leftenant" instead of lieutenant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

also fuck french

most the stupid ass spelling mistakes I make like this come from french loan words

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, and in my personal experience, I’ve found people who feel they are never wrong to be the most uninformed and unintelligent of all people. It’s so sad that these people also are the ones that somehow rise to power and influence.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's all about confidence. If you think you are infallible you will have perfect confidence no matter how wrong you are.

Conman is a shortened version of confidence man.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I encounter lots of people that are confidently incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We really need to stop thinking the Kennedy family are in any way special other than Joe who IRL is a nice guy who tries to stop people from freezing to death.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

We really need to stop thinking of anyone as special and treat everyone with dignity and respect (excluding Nazis).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yep one should never generalize anything that broad. Joe and maybe caroline. She at least sees the writing on the wall and has no desire to get involved with politics. Just living her own life

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never met her. I have met Joe a few dozen times campaigning for candidates and gay marriage in MA decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I can't say I know a ton about her either. But I seem to remember in the early aughts there were some pushing for her to get involved in politics. And I know she's come out against Robert Jr etc. And that's at least two decent decisions. But Joe definitely sounds like a pretty stand-up guy.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We're talking about a guy who, I shit you not. picked up roadkill -- specifically a dead bear -- and kept it in his car all day. He was planning on eating it but got busy. Eventually, it ceased to be fresh enough even for his palate so he decided to dump it in central park. He staged it with an old bike he had in his car so that it looked like a bicyclist rode into it and killed it. This is the quality of decision making we're talking about here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One thing I really do not understand. How can a bear be roadkill? What does your car look like after you hit a bear?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lots of bears where I am. If you hit them head on, your car is usually totaled.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

This is why bullbars are somewhat common in rural areas. More for deer than bears, though. And you're more likely to crack your radiator than have a total loss, unless you keep driving with a leaking radiator of course...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullbar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of the companies that makes bullbars is called Ranch Hand.

This is massively off topic, but the subject never comes up. I wonder if I could trouble you for independent confirmation that their logo looks like a Ferengi.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Heh yeah I can see the resemblance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Depends on the kind of bear. A black bear cub like this would be like hitting a dog, I suspect. An adult would fuck your car up good.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Depending on the car as an 18 wheel semi will liquidate anything it runs into.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Black bears in general aren't very big bears. They weigh about 100 kilos on average and are about the height of a person if they are standing but only a meter tall on all fours. I've ran across them a few times while out hunting deer and it always surprises me how small they are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

...and kids, that's how you get worms in your brain. (undercooked wild meat)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

so that it looked like a bicyclist rode into it and killed it

That's how the Internet still helps my mental health sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Honestly out of the things he's said I don't even care about this. Other than the eating roadkill part this is the kind of shit me and my friends got up to when we were younger.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure it's just kids being kids. He was only 61 years old at the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Eh, weird but still pretty harmless imo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yea honestly? it's funny as fuck, legendary prank. Oh no a dead bear in central park oh noooooo

Hear me out: what actually troubles me is his opinions about vaccines. Strange take, I know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yea, far more concerning things about him to focus on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just casually driving by myself on a tuesday oh look a bear carcass. Better put that in my vehicle for later. To eat.

3 days later... fuck thats right theres a rotting bear in my car. Better get rid of it in a funny way im going to be making health decisions for the entire country soon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I doubt you were up to the kind of shit JFK was up to unless you spend your youth on a carcass pit feeding your pet hawk and had your own gang. Behind the Bastards had an episode on RFK Jr and it's wild.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The video that he released where he’s telling the story to Rosanne Barr of all people, is absolutely unhinged.

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1820132549798347109

(Sorry for twitter link… is there a way to post to mirror site for twitter?)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ill-advised? You fucking what? You think this will make a difference?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Don’t get angry at me. Im not your enemy. Focus that rage where it belongs: the rich.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Nothing will ever make a difference if no one expects it to make a difference. I hate this defeatism