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A project called "Remove-DEI" shows the tweaks used to remove "forbidden words" from a database about childhood school readiness.

The updates, shown in Github commits, are to a database for the Department of Health and Human Services’ Head Start program. They show a project called “Remove-DEI,” which reveal some of the back-and-forth that is happening behind the scenes to align federal agencies with Donald Trump’s executive orders that forbid almost anything having to do with race or gender within federal agencies. The Github pages show software engineers discussing amongst themselves how to best remove all instances of “forbidden words” from a specific database, and the code updates they used to do it. The changes also show that, while thousands of government datasets are disappearing from the internet, even ones that remain are having parts of their utility deprecated or broken in a way that may not be visible to those outside the government.

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[–] [email protected] 289 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let me get this straight. This is the “free speech absolutist” doing this, right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Internals of state structures being mandated some terminology is not really a violation of free speech.

In theory there are two approaches to discrimination - the neutral and the compensatory. The neutral one is that eventually discrimination will dissolve if the structure is built truly neutrally. The compensatory one is to detect kinds of discrimination and compensate for them specifically. I can imagine both the former and the latter feeling nicer in theory. The former - well, no special cases, just prevent the structure itself from reinforcing injustice. The latter - well, everything in life is a special case, you'll never have a perfect structure, so it's better to work with what you have.

It's like different kinds of interference in radio, requiring different solutions. In fact they are not contradictory and both have their place in a working system (I haven't heard of such).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oops no such thing as a neutral state structure, thank you come again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Yes, there's no such thing. Just as there's no such thing as perfect compensation.

Also by neutral structure I mean what they are pretending to be making now, and by compensatory what's supposed to have existed before. I hope that hasn't eluded you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck did I just read? This sounds actually a lot like raw unapologetic hate of people that don't fit [blank] from society. It's utterly insane. It will hurt you eventually, you know that right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I'm taking side in that text.

I do think you shouldn't make opinions of text you didn't understand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are taking side in that text. I fully understand it, it's not as elegant and complex as you think. It's just evil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, impossible to argue with such a claim, but if you really want for it to be something worth your own time, you can explain what side, in your opinion, I'm taking, when saying that there are two approaches at making a state structure support equality (something almost every ideology, even fascist, in some sense wants, they differ in the core criterion before which people must be equal), and while Musk&Trump&rest are claiming to be transitioning from one to another, they have no intention to finish it, so they are just breaking things.

Damn right it's neither elegant nor complex, it's actually so long because it's clumsy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Making a "state structure" that vilifies and exclude humans based on race, sexual orientation, thoughts etc. Is not valid. It's not a state structure. It's a tantrum. It's rage and hate. It's not a valid state organization because it's not related to the things those concern, it's focused on defeating pain from being inferior onto others and doesn't belong

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

GitHub is owned by Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is being done by trump and musk.

Microsoft just own the company where this is being discussed because the people actually doing the work are treating it like any other software project.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think you're missing something here.

GitHub isn't doing anything. It's just a repository where people can track changes that are happening by end users. The end users are using GitHub and are removing DEI stuff from their products at the direction of the US government (AKA. Musk and Trump).

Being angry at Microsoft is like being angry at a grocery store chain because you saw a kid being told by his grandpa to feed stale bread (from that grocery store) to some ducks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, I'll reread, I've something to do shortly that will take most of my day but I'll come back tonight to this. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

To add, GitHub is actually a great place to be making these changes, because with GitHub you retain history of the edits and prior versions. So after Trump changes his mind or loses power, the missing information can be brought back in fairly easily. Nothing is permanently lost.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Revert a 4 year old commit without dealing with conflict hell? I sure wish them luck

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Most of these pages probably don't change for years. And maybe not explicitly "revert"ing the change, but they'd know where to go back and find the text used for DEI stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Revert a 4 year old commit without dealing with conflict hell? I sure wish them luck

They should just revert every single change since this commit. That will role back all 4 years of Trump's enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

So after Trump changes his mind or loses power, the missing information can be brought back in fairly easily. Nothing is permanently lost.

It's funny they have absolutely no idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Missing information being brought back? Assuming they don't destroy backups. Assuming there are backups.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It'd take extra effort to remove the Git diff history, and I don't think higher ups would know or the lower downs would care, lol

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (2 children)

....

Excusing what? Someone called out the "free speech absolutist" hypocrisy. You assumed they were talking about Github or Microsoft for some reason. I corrected you.

Maybe learn how to contribute to a conversation?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

Don’t feed the worthless troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And people discussing it are employed by musk?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

The people that are discussing it are exposing it and showing what is happening. And the tools provided by GitHub are helping.

So your original comment was celebrating Microsoft?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are you too stupid to understand the difference between hosting software source code and modifying it?

Microsoft/github are not the ones making changes through commits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Since people can drown in water, we must ban water!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Apologists who sit down at the same table as the Nazis are equivocal to the pre-seated Nazis. Zero sympathy.

Purge and lance the boil.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

I yell at the road when people drive badly, too.