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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm sure the Palestinians are grateful the Democrats didn't win.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But they didn't promise to stop it, so voting for fascism was the only alternative!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have more alternatives in the voting booth by passing state level electoral reform! Then people could vote for who they want and still have their vote count against the Republicans.

Who could possibly say no to having more then one chance to beat the Republicans?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Yeah, fair voting is over in the US. You can't remove fascism at the voting booth.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What would a Democratic win have changed here? Have you already forgotten then 15 previous months where Democrats were sending Israel cash, jets, 2,000lb bombs, arms, and every other tool they needed to continue their genocide?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NO FACTS ALLOWED! ONLY HATE FOR THIRD PARTIES!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm half convinced that these are just bots here to drum up infighting as any post mentioning Israel seems to get flooded with these comments, and almost none of the commenters ever respond to replies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh, they respond. Turns into days long flame war if you don't just stop responding yourself. Still bots afaict though, either that or extremely confident idiots.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do you think the "days long flame war" might not happen if you didn't do things like call people idiots?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes. I think if liberals didn't call people who couldn't bring themselves to vote pro-genocide "idiots" then the flame wars wouldn't go on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're the one I see calling people idiots right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I haven't done that, like, at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pardon me, it was the person I originally replied to. You just decided to butt your way in after they started calling people idiots to claim that's not what other people are doing for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, liberals have been calling all non Kfans idiots.... so, you understand why it devolves so quickly, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are literally defending the only person calling anyone an idiot. So yes, I do understand why it devolves so quickly. Because the two of you also think it's okay to call people idiots.

Maybe don't insult anyone even if they insult you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

YOU have called ME an idiot, unprovoked, in other threads.

Pot. Kettle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That is also a lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FlyingSquid will never be wrong and if you keep going they turn to emotional manipulation and abuse with threatening suicide and making horrible statements about their life in order to drag you to sympathize for them after they have been rude and unsympathetic to you.

I don't think they are a bot but I think they are one of the worst people to discuss with on the platform for their own personal reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've blocked them. I can tell, at minimally, they were not interested in any good faith discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What evidence do you have that Kamala would have opposed this idea as president? Has she released any recent statement condemning the idea? It's actually a lot easier for her to do so now than it would have been with her as president. She's a private citizen now; she need not fear AIPAC campaign dollars. She need not fear offending Biden. She's not lifting a finger to condemn the idea now, when she faces zero downside in doing so. What makes you think she would have opposed it as president?

Sure, Trump is a lot more vocal in his support of ethnic cleansing than Kamala would have been. But I think Kamala would have simply looked the other way and refused to intervene if Israel attempted it. I see zero indication in her actual behavior that she would have intervened if she was currently president.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the end result is the same I would certainly rather have non-fascist fucks in office

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That's

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

And that's why you lost. As long as you're ready to throw foreigners under the bus you will just be seen as the scum you are.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden literally sanctioned them just for settling, Trump reversed it.

Of course this wouldn't have happened under Kamala. It may have dragged on for a bit, but they delayed the ceasefire until Trump got in, if he lost - they were down bad in an increasingly worsening PR situation and were somewhat tied to that. Now they don't care, look at them. Probably launch gaza baby NFTs and pocket the profits too just for kicks.

Straight into the west bank as Adelson paid $100m for the privlege, and now celebrating an ethnic clensing. There won't be a palestine at the end of this term.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

How many people did Biden sanction? List the names.

Do you understand why we keep saying everything Biden "did to help" was symbolic and completely worthless? That he did those things while vetoing ceasefires at the UN and sending tens of billions of dollars in bombs for them to commit mass murder with? That this is the behavior of an actual psychopath who's complicit in genocide?

The sooner you all stop running from reality, the sooner we can start fixing this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You seem not to realise the way to "fixing this' is through a political process and you fuckers are locked in for 4 years of a dude who doesn't know what shame it's.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

4 years

that's very optimistic

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The political process enables it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Are you seriously saying people who got bombed for a year that their only option is through a "political process".

Lmao if I was palestinian I would only want to bomb new york.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Don't waste your breath, these people don't even know what the West Bank is

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you seriously arguing that we didn't know what Kamala would do on this so Trump, who was very clear about it, was a better alternative?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

Are you seriously quoting Ben Shapiro in defense of that ludicrous claim?

Your link didn't even have anything to do with the claim, but your love of phrases invented by right wing pundits is noted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But yeah it's funny you care more about the wording than the content.

It have everything to do with the claim. The last US administration was as bloodthirthy as ever, the only difference to the current one is that this time they actually attack americans.

You feel it's the end of the world because you were on the good side of the stick beforeward. You are still a morally bankrupted person who were cool with voting for a genocider.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Frankly I doubt they give a fuck, this was the outcome for them either way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

The 40k+ dead under a dem president probably don't care one way or the other.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I’m sorry to disappoint you but we are unhappy with both parties. Biden is an absolute devil for allowing this genocide to unfold and providing both weapons and rhetorical and political support. Trump is an absolute devil too, the difference is that he’s absolutely unhinged and says the quiet part out loud.

I feel sorry for the domestical issues this is causing you now and the general chaos this guy creates but for us Palestinians Democrats and Republicans aren’t much different in their support for Zionism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Typical first world sheltered westoid.

Palestinians on the ground are being starved, bombed and shot at. You think they give a shit about american elections, idiot? Go outside.