this post was submitted on 19 Feb 2025
14 points (100.0% liked)

Conservative

569 readers
26 users here now

A place to discuss pro-conservative stuff

  1. Be excellent to each other. Civility, No Racism, No Bigotry, No Slurs, No calls to violences, No namecalling, All that good stuff, follow lemm.ee's rules, follow the rules of your instance, etc.

  2. We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.

  3. Dissent is allowed in the comments, but try to be constructive; if you do not agree, then provide a reason which is backed up by references or a reasonable alternative interpretation of the provided facts. That means the left wing is welcome to state their opinions, but please keep it in good faith.

A polite request, not a rule, if you feel the need to report a comment, please don't reply to it.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Something funny is going on at Lemm.ee. The admin is suddently ban hammer happy too.

That and all the mods removed from here is kinds strange.

Anyone have any word on what's up and why the drastic changes in attitude and all of the sudden bans?

**EDIT: **Actually I think I found the reason: https://lemm.ee/post/55846636/18367529 (!meta@ lemm.ee "It seems some higher level moderation of communities may be required")

Lemm.ee is a bunch of new admins, so it's not longer as friendly to differing opinions as it once was.

Which a bunch of Lemmy Democrats are gonna cheer and advertise about.

Probably a good idea for us to find a new conservative community.

Don't let them silence you, guys. We should just move--not run away. Running away is what they want us to do.

EDIT: I'm not defending Nazi's or Nazi salutes. I didn't see the post and I haven't seen any describe it other than "it was a Nazi salute!" Does anyone want to actually describe the post? What did it say? Was it a meme? Was it Musk? Was it a random pic?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

conservative communities are highly sensitive to anything that goes against the echo chamber

You're describing Lemmy. In this very thread there are people saying that conservative communites shouldn't be allowed on Lemmy. LMAO

And I didn't see the nazi salute that started the shitshow. So I have no clue what happened with that other than the fact that it's been removed.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I guess the bigger question you should be asking yourself is why Nazis keep showing up in the conservative movement. Why conservative leaders court them for votes. Why conservative leaders are performing Nazi salutes at presidential inaugurations.

Weird how the left doesn't have a Nazi problem.

Can you expand on that for us?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

why Nazis keep showing up in the conservative movement.

I don't think they do. Most conservative people I know in real life don't like nazi's.

And I don't think Elon is a conservative leader. And I don't think he's a nazi. I DO think he did a nazi salute to troll everyone. And I do think that trump should have distances himself from him. But I'm not going to fucking cancel Trump just because him and Trump are friends.

Elon is a capitalist, not a Nazi. And he's a dork who will soon implode the relationship he has with Trump.

But I do love him DOGE'ing every fucking thing and slashing and burning all the govt programs. That's hilarious to watch.

He's an asshole, not a Nazi. And he likes trolling you all to see how pissed off you all get. And it works every single time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nazis are capitalists. The word privatization was literally invented to describe what the Nazis did. Elon also constantly says and tweets and does and agrees with nazi shit. If he isn't a Nazi then i am the god of Justice and karma.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nazis are capitalists.

Ok, but are all capitalists, Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, but being capitalist in no way precludes nazism like you suggested

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I didn't suggest that. I said that I think Trump is a capitalist, not a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think they do.

It doesn't matter what you think. Your opinion is not relevant on this subject. That white supremacists vote Republican is not up for debate. It is simple fact. There's a reason why we've seen an increase in public displays of white supremacy during both Trump's terms.

Most conservative people I know in real life don’t like nazi’s.

Then they should stop voting to support them or people will assume they are also Nazis/fascists.

And I don’t think Elon is a conservative leader.

Then you'd be wrong. He funded Donald Trump's campaign, is followed by MANY conservatives on social media, and now has a prominent role in a conservative White House administration. So, again, you are definitively wrong.

But I’m not going to fucking cancel Trump

There is no reality in which you will cancel Donald Trump. You are in a cult. You are cucked.

Elon is a capitalist, not a Nazi.

Capitalists don't perform Nazi salutes on national television. Nazis do.

But I do love him DOGE’ing every fucking thing and slashing and burning all the govt programs. That’s hilarious to watch.

The fact that you are celebrating tens of thousands of federal workers losing their livelihood, many of whom are veterans, tells me what kind of sick individual you are. You are not a good person.

He’s an asshole, not a Nazi.

He's both.

And he likes trolling you all to see how pissed off you all get.

Sounds like a child. Which means you and him have something in common.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with everything you said. I'm glad Trump is president. :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with everything you said.

That's because you are a scum incel that supports fascism in America.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I didnt see it

So it must not exist?

Its literally discussed in the post you linked in your edit. tf?

edit. Lets simplify this.

Do you support literal nazi salutes on the front page of this community?

Are you willing to speak out against nazis?

These are yes or no questions. They should be very simple.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So it must not exist?

I never said that. I said that I didn't see it, so I can't comment on it.

Its literally discussed in the post you linked in your edit. tf?

Sure it was discussed, but it didn't say what the image was. Was it a meme? I have no clue. What was the context? WAs it jsut a pic of Elon giving a nazi salute without saying anything?

Maybe you can describe it to me.

Do you support literal nazi salutes on the front page of this community?

I do not. Never said I have. I simply said I didn't see the image in question.

Are you willing to speak out against nazis?

Yep. But that doesn't mean that this conversation should lead to variations of "every conservative is a Nazi" nonsense. Becuase that's not fact. That may be your opinion, but that's not fact.

Hey, it's not my fucking instance. If lemm.ee decides to ban conservative communities, then hey, they can go for it. There are other conservative communites on lemmy.

I don't agree that they should ban them, but I do believe it's their right to do whatever they want with their instance. Just like I can do what I want with my instances.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one is banning conservative communities. they are removing nazi posts. Not sure why you’re misunderstanding that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one is banning conservative communities. they are removing nazi posts

And I am fine with that. But I am seeing a larger conversation, in the links provided where people are saying that there should be no conservative communities. As in literally saying, "There shouldn't be conservative communities allowed anywhere on Lemmy."

That's what I'm referring to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

where are you seeing that discussion

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/post/25674081

Which also talks about the reason all the mods were removed from this community today. Here is just one of the comments saying that, but there are others:

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok so one random user stated that? Out of thousands?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did you read the whole thread? You only seen one person saying that? Come on, now...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A handful? Do you think lemmy is made up of like, 10 users?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you think the majority of Lemmy users would like conservative communties on Lemmy?

How about this: You create a new user name. Then you and I will create a new Conservative community on Lemmy and be co-mods. After a month, tell me what you think about the general attitude Lemmy has about people who start conservative communities.

You'll be called a Nazi even if you don't post or comment on a single post. lmao

DM me, and let's do it. It'll be fun!

And we need some more conservative points of view on lemmy anyway, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lets do it. Will you be removing every dissenting opinion, and only allowing breitbart posts? Will it be deep throating every single evil move trump makes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope. I'll allow breitbart posts though. and you gotta promise not to remove posts unless they are literally saying nazi stuff. You can't just go, "wait, this isn't an anti-elon news article, so it's A NAZI POST!" and crazy shit like that.

I say we start a community, conservative-leaning (because there are already a shitton of liberal-leaning ones) and see what happens. I am fine having a non-conservative mod, so that we can hopefully overcome the whole "all the mods are nazi's accusations)

Should we start on a new instance or maybe see if we can take over the [email protected] instance since it has no mods right now?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Ok, let's do it. I'll message the mods and ask if we can have this one. And let you know it goes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, your profile is this. Are you sure you are gonna be able to remain neutral in a conservative community? Because if all this is in bad faith, then let's not waste our time. I was being honest in my conversation with you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, fair comment. I can make a new account and make a genuine effort of being neutral.

Dont get me wrong - democratic party have made some seriously bad decisions. But at least they stayed within the law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think the new account would be better, because for many people, if they look at your current account, they may see a bias and disregard what you have to say--even if you are right.

But again, only for the community. I have no problem with your main profile being as is. I don't agree with it, but I do support your right to say it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For someone that's only been here for 8 days you sure do think you know everything about Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What makes you think I have only been on Lemmy for 8 days? You realize that some people have more than one username, correct?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah so you keep getting banned.
Even more ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I haven't been banned from anywhere under any username I've used. I just explained why I change usernames ever few months.. Where did I ever say or show that I've been banned?!

Tho I DO expect to get banned a result of this conversation thread! lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You keep saying that. Why would you banned for this thread? That doesn't make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hope I don't get banned. but I keep saying it because the attitude on Lemmy lately has been very ban-heavy to conservative views.

Trust me, I'm more than happy to be wrong.

But I also get called a "troll" on a daily basis, even tho I have not said anything trolling. So meh, it's Lemmy, hard to tell what will happen.

If I do get banned, I'll just start another username though. I scrub my usernames every few months anyway, so no biggie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Trolls usually have bad takes on things, that's why.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no one can magically know what other accounts you use

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Of course not. Nor which other accounts you use.

Which is why I explained it to you. Lots of people on Lemmy have more than one account. So you can't really judge based on an age of a user account unless they say they are new.

I've been on lemmy for a little over a year.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

so why are you now using a new account?

Trolling? Ban evasion?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I haven't trolled and I haven't evaded any bans.

Lots of people have mulitple usernames on Lemmy. For me, it's to protect my privacy and information from being all in one place. As are many others on here.

In fact, in the privacy communities, they recommend purging your username and creating a new one every few months. And I agree with that. And I do. And I will continue to do so.

Feel freel to check out the privacy communities and ask their thoughts on that subject.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thats fair enough. But also, dont get upset when people question how long youve been on the platform when literally the only information others have is when you current account was created

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I wasn't upset. I was merely pointing out that you have to be careful of assumptions on a platform like Lemmy that is so decentralized and focused on privacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also you: "Multiple accounts?! I have no idea what you are talking about!"

load more comments (1 replies)