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A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine's "surrender" terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.

Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.

Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He's gonna withdraw anyways...he works for you Putin. They are ramping for WW3 with the world vs USA/Russia/China..fucked up to put us with Russia but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah he'll withdraw troops and NATO support no matter how things go in Europe ...

He'll need more armyboots at home defending his regime ... also needs to recoup costs due to losing out on tax income and tariff lies. Then there is this thing where he wants to give Putin this favor of dismantling NATO.

So, his demand was 2% in 2017 ... and countries are exceeding that, Poland is already spending more than even the US, and Germany is climbing, so he upped it to 5% to get the excuse of the US backing out.

Even if they meet 5%, in a few years he'll up it further.

Ofcourse for now he'll assume the NATO members still feel bound to keep supplying intelligence information and buy American weaponry, even if NATO falls apart.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The other four of the Five Eyes should be having a rethink. Maybe there are worse things than losing an eye.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure Poland is already on course to exceed 5%.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Has China given an indication they're allied with the US? This is an earnest question.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it's more trump / Putin and Putin/ Winnie the Pooh so they are just all friends

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's a lot like the tripartite pact. three fascist military governments are agreeing to non-compete terms. they are not allies. they are merely not enemies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

This definitely helped answer my question, thanks yall!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Japan and Germany were strange bedfellows the last time this all happened, if you'll recall.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and all that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

They are ramping for WW3 with the world vs USA/Russia/China…

Holy fuck I feel so sorry for the world.

Less than half of the US support Trump though, so the US would either be on the side of the World or fighting its own civil war.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

About 2/3 of the voting age no?

1/3 actively voted for him, and 1/3 was "fine with either option"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He didn't win the >50% of the vote if you count third parties which is interesting enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Nah. Lumping the people who didn't vote in as supporting trump is stupid.

(I fully expect most of you to do it, though.)

Edit for the downvoters: Are you really delusional enough to believe that people who didn't vote for trump are automatically going to die for him in a war? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lumping the people who didn't vote in as supporting trump is stupid.

In the context of electoral outcomes, it's objectively true. Other than that, I think most of us would agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the context of electoral outcomes, it’s objectively true.

Not really, but I expect you to be delusional enough to believe it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is true. By not opposing fascism, you're tacitly supporting it.

They literally published a playbook of what they'd do if they won. The contents of it were known. The man straight up said he would be a dictator.

Knowing all of that, if you didn't oppose him, you were complicit in him gaining power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

🥱

The delusion on these forums is palpable.

"If you don't vote in an election, you automatically support one candidate over the other!"

Glad most of it is contained online, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

More like

"If you don't vote in an election, you don't prefer one candidate over the other / oppose one candidate!"

Now tell me Harris would've been equally bad...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Harris would've been better than trump, but that's not the boon you may think it is.

The problem with biden and harris is they convince the left that a slow loss is winning. It's not. The disparity in wealth continued to grow under biden, just not as fast as it would have under trump.

Until the left can grow some cajones and rescind its rampant consumerism, either politician that wins is a loss for the working class.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And yet it would've been far better to choose the slow loss over the immediate loss

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It's fine if you think that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You should look up the definition of tacitly.

All that's required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. If you did nothing to prevent Trump, then you are fully on board with what he promised to do when he's in power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Both are evil, though.

Also, why does not voting show support for one side over the other?

Why do you always say "If you didn't vote, you support TRUMP!"?

Why not "If you didn't vote, you support Kamala!"?

What's the determining factor, or are non-voters just people you can blame for whatever you want?

then you are fully on board with what he promised to do when he’s in power.

This kind of delusion is sad among this generation, but I seriously don't expect more from you people at this point. I'd be foolish to do so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you didn't vote, so you where equally fine with both options. So in effect you voted for the winner, IE Trump

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Ahh, so whoever didn't vote automatically supports whoever won?

Interesting "logic".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Expecting them to defend the USA from Trump is also stupid. They couldn't even be bothered to vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Not really, if it came down to a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Congressional approval is required for acts of war. I know the Republicans have Congress, but are they willing to go that far??

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they've actually approved a war since Korea. They ceded that power to the president. Congress never declared war on Vietnam, Iraq x2, or Afghanistan. And that's just the big ones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

You are incorrect on each of those. Vietnam was approved by Congress with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (1964). Iraq was approved with the Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (2002). Afghanistan was approved by the Congress Joint Resolution (2001).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

If you don't agree 100% with what Trump says you're an traitor. They probably will, rightly fearing for their lives if they don't

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

So a new call to the army for all european people and here we go again. Monkeys spinning the wheel because of a bunch of useless people.