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A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine's "surrender" terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.

Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.

Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (33 children)

He's gonna withdraw anyways...he works for you Putin. They are ramping for WW3 with the world vs USA/Russia/China..fucked up to put us with Russia but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (22 children)

They are ramping for WW3 with the world vs USA/Russia/China…

Holy fuck I feel so sorry for the world.

Less than half of the US support Trump though, so the US would either be on the side of the World or fighting its own civil war.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

About 2/3 of the voting age no?

1/3 actively voted for him, and 1/3 was "fine with either option"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nah. Lumping the people who didn't vote in as supporting trump is stupid.

(I fully expect most of you to do it, though.)

Edit for the downvoters: Are you really delusional enough to believe that people who didn't vote for trump are automatically going to die for him in a war? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lumping the people who didn't vote in as supporting trump is stupid.

In the context of electoral outcomes, it's objectively true. Other than that, I think most of us would agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the context of electoral outcomes, it’s objectively true.

Not really, but I expect you to be delusional enough to believe it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It is true. By not opposing fascism, you're tacitly supporting it.

They literally published a playbook of what they'd do if they won. The contents of it were known. The man straight up said he would be a dictator.

Knowing all of that, if you didn't oppose him, you were complicit in him gaining power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

🥱

The delusion on these forums is palpable.

"If you don't vote in an election, you automatically support one candidate over the other!"

Glad most of it is contained online, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

More like

"If you don't vote in an election, you don't prefer one candidate over the other / oppose one candidate!"

Now tell me Harris would've been equally bad...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris would've been better than trump, but that's not the boon you may think it is.

The problem with biden and harris is they convince the left that a slow loss is winning. It's not. The disparity in wealth continued to grow under biden, just not as fast as it would have under trump.

Until the left can grow some cajones and rescind its rampant consumerism, either politician that wins is a loss for the working class.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet it would've been far better to choose the slow loss over the immediate loss

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's fine if you think that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should look up the definition of tacitly.

All that's required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. If you did nothing to prevent Trump, then you are fully on board with what he promised to do when he's in power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Both are evil, though.

Also, why does not voting show support for one side over the other?

Why do you always say "If you didn't vote, you support TRUMP!"?

Why not "If you didn't vote, you support Kamala!"?

What's the determining factor, or are non-voters just people you can blame for whatever you want?

then you are fully on board with what he promised to do when he’s in power.

This kind of delusion is sad among this generation, but I seriously don't expect more from you people at this point. I'd be foolish to do so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you didn't vote, so you where equally fine with both options. So in effect you voted for the winner, IE Trump

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ahh, so whoever didn't vote automatically supports whoever won?

Interesting "logic".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Expecting them to defend the USA from Trump is also stupid. They couldn't even be bothered to vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not really, if it came down to a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He didn't win the >50% of the vote if you count third parties which is interesting enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

A lot of people don't vote as a protest. Most stupid shit I ever heard and I instantly lose respect for anyone that doesn't at least go spoil their ballot.

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