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Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
::Looks at Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart::
Yes.
If I wrote the list of actions and demonstrations I visited and helped organize in the last 15 years, I'd get accused of bragging. There's no winning against that argument, it's either "Show me what you've done" ::Shows all the things:: "You're bragging" or ::Shows nothing:: "See? I'm right."
Then prove it.
I'm not gonna send my professional c/v to some rando on the internet. What difference does it make anyway?
So you've done nothing and you're pretending. Thumbs up
What have you done?
We already asked you. And you've caved at answering. But you acted all high and mighty, so we're waiting on your actual response.
In middleschool some peers and I helped run a fundraiser and helped organize in 2003 against the war in Iraq (kinda started here, cuz I naiively thought we were past that as a species)
When living in America during my teens, attended every protest I could physically go to to march against KKK and NeoNazi rally's, we even (foolishly) got physical with them.
November 2011 was at Occupy Wall St. where 800+ of us were arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge. (first time being arrested at a protest)
2012-2013 worked with Greenpeace, Wilderness Society, and alongside with Bob Irwin (Steve Irwin's dad) in his Fight for the Reef campaign to protect the Great Barrier Reef from coal shipping expansion (successfully managed to delay the Australian coal industries plan for a whole year, sadly they dredged the GBR anyway but I'd like to think we gave them a headache.)
2013 onwards - Attended every protest but at this point I'm past yelling and shouting, nowadays I hand out bottles of water and information on rights and what to do if you're arrested or confronted by police.
2024 - Helped defend Plymouth UK from the fascist pogroms, same as above except also using my body as a shield to protect others from bricks. Hurt like a bitch but i'd take a million more. Also help run classes and leftist meetings alongside socialist members of government to teach members of the public everything from history of anti-fascism to safe resistance to mutual aid and preformative politics to cybersecurity to fascist dog-whistles and local fascist groups.
Currently diagnosed and disabled from Graves disease, but if a march were to happen outside say millionaire or billionaire gated communities i'd defy my doctors orders to show up.
Happy? This is kinda my hobby.
EDIT - If you NEED proof I can dig up the video I took back in 2011 of us marching onto the Brooklyn Bridge, but that would take effort and I don't see why I should waste that effort on you.
That other commenter had to be a bot keep the fight going man America's worth saving by actual Americans not a billionaire narcissistic psychopath of an orange shit gibbon Russian asset
"Earnest Hemmingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."
That's all we were asking for, thank you.
Does this qualify as doing something?
This is why I don't share the things I've done to try and help, because random people on the internet who have done nothing say shit like this. Like I said, there's no winning, i'm either bragging or lying. You asked I answered, and you're still not happy.
EDIT - I was open enough to share a list of things i've done, do you mind sharing yours?
I was open enough to share a list of things i've done, do you mind sharing yours?
I feel like you're proving my original point.
That's my deal. What have you done to defend your community and home today? Or yesterday?
EDIT - Assuming you're an American resident and if not why the fuck are we having this conversation.
Especially those of us who are POC/LGBTQ+ we aren't the fucking problem any more than the German Jews who voted in their elections when hitler was elected. These people apparently would have blamed German Jews for 'doing nothing' and then fleeing their country instead of 'staying to fix it' and they don't seem to understand what they're saying. I do honestly believe there is a concerted russian/foreign effort to fan the flames of division between left leaning Americans and the rest of the world. Our populations overwhelmingly voted against trump we don't have the fucking numbers but yep we're all at fault and apparently we should go around committing mass shootings until we get what we want even if we end up killing other democratic party supporters as long as we get one magat...
This is not about any individuals, it's about America as a whole!!!
Speak for yourself.
I'm still waiting to hear what they've done to combat injustice in their home today. Or even yesterday for that matter.
EDIT - They responded, they're a G.
This is not about normal politics, or business as usual, it's about Trump destroying USA. In my country there is nothing remotely close to Trump or Republicans to demonstrate against, because we have a democracy that actually works.
There are a lot of protests going on right now - the news isn't covering it.
I think the legal, standing around with signs protest is going to have to have its toothier cousin (the violent riot) starting up again alongside it if we want anything to change. They already painted the 2020 protests as "burning the cities down" despite them being >90% peaceful. We might as well -- to reference Kendrick Lamar's lyrics -- fuck being rational and give em what they asked for.
Yup.
Legal avenues and peaceful protests aren't viable.
Violence will have to be the answer. Historically it always is if legal avenues and peaceful protests fail.
Fascists do not respond to anything other than violence.
It's coming. The question is how much violence will be necessary to bring about change?
And it all could have been avoided if Americans behaved like adults and refrained from empowering a traitorous felon rapist.
Been to three so far in MN already and plenty before that. Things will get wilder as the weather warms up as sad as that is, it is a reality.
Where? how do you know? how does the rest of the world find out about these?
I was curious what would happen if I googled "protests happening right now" and interestingly enough, it sent back this link: https://usprotests.liveuamap.com/
I'd question the credibility at this point. I've spent 0 minutes on there.
Aside from that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-NxUYGpAo&list=RDNSdN-NxUYGpAo&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXcaRvKAz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHitRUYRbdk&list=RDNSNHitRUYRbdk&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tro3pCO0YWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMF2OU-xR4
Honestly, just fucking around on Lemmy every other day or so, I always see a new post regarding a protest.
Thanks for the links!... definitely a balm on the shattered trust in the American people
There are images each week of a new protest in my city subreddit on reddit
It appears so.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically. Our government is not equipped to deal with internal threats like this. We have too many weaknesses within our system and too many individuals unwilling to live up to their oaths.
That leaves it up to the general public. Right now, not gonna happen. Not sure what's going to happen over the next few years. Things are going to get progressively worse. People will get more desperate. Violent crime will increase. These factors may push Americans to protest, probably violently, at levels never before seen in this country. That could bring about a positive change. But I'm not really betting on that happening. People are complacent. People are wage slaves. We're going to have to lose our internet and TV and cell phone service before Americans get bloodthirsty on a large scale. Or if they seriously fuck with social security. That'll cause riots.
But if they're even remotely smart fascists they'd know to do this all slowly to prevent Americans from noticing or at least to prevent them from getting super mad super quick. Like, fuck with Social Security a little bit, so people get mad, but not that mad. Then do it some more a year later.
They're not particularly smart though. So we're basically going to see over the next few years if Americans can live up to our rebellious stereotype or if we've become meek and frail through lack of true hardship.
The general public that opposes this isn't organized yet. This needs to happen first. People seem to want Americans who oppose this to go out and do mass shootings in areas we THINK there might be magats and hope for the best. I really think a lot of this is russian/other foreign trolls trying to rage bait someone into doing this. The people who want to go that route need to have intelligence and other leg work done for them to point them to the right places to get the most optimal results with the least collateral damage. I have no clue how to organize in a way that rookie mistakes wouldn't be made and people wouldn't end up getting imprisoned or killed before they were able to get what they wanted to accomplish done.
I'd rather live in neo-fascist USA than in a war zone where I'm liable to be sent to the frontlines and die bleeding out in a trench after a drone blows my leg off.
I'd rather live in neo-fascist USA than live in poverty in many parts of Latin America where I would make 10x higher salary for unskilled labor. I would also have a 10x lower chance of getting my throat slit walking down the street at night.
Neo-fascist USA has literally threatened war with Canada and other neighboring countries, so if you think you won't be on the front lines in a nonsense war started by fascists, then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
Chances are you and other Americans will be fighting in Ukraine alongside Russia by next year at the rate this clown show is excellerating.
There's no American freedom in Neo-fascist USA, just whatever the broligarchy wants. The rights and freedom you, and every previous generation of Americans fought for are pretty much all gone now, so you are sorely mistaken if you assume you now have any.
i was born in a country with a military dictatorship who used to disappear people. just because the country is going to hell doesn't mean you can't carve out a meaningful life for yourself in the chaos. and living in a dystopian version of the US is probably still better than living in a dystopian version of a 3rd world country
at no point in US history has the US been at war with a neighboring country over a trade war escalation and instituted a draft as a result of that war
any future war is going to be versus China and we've probably got at least a few years before that comes to fruition.
we're in the years leading up to WW3. think of it like the early 1930s. if you look at history, everywhere sucked. i'd rather be in a 1st world country when the bombs go off rather than a 3rd world country where i'm liable to starve due to mass famines
You're arguing for the pros of living in Germany post WW2. Because if WW3 happens, the US will not be on the side of the good guys.
Im sorry you lived in a 3rd world dictatorship. I imagine you moved to the US to escape that. I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place, rather than be complacent as we break bad due to social medias firehose of propaganda.
i would very much like to preserve the freedom as well. i'm not pro-fascism if that wasn't clear
i was just saying that even if shit gets really bad here people may still come because everything else could be worse
Fair enough. And thanks for the clarification.
Yeah, pretty likely.