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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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PTB. This is unreasonable. Also trying to prevent teenagers from accessing the internet is just going to lead to all teenagers just lying about their age. It's not going to stop it. It's just going to mean they can't discuss their actual opinions and issues honestly. It would also reinforce the need to lie to be part of culture, which is just not healthy.
Teenagers lying about their age on the internet is as old as teenagers on the internet.
Keeping the age barriers in place is good anyway. It communicates to younger people clearly that the content is not considered suitable for them. It gives them a moment to think and reconsider.
Participating in online culture might be generally not healthy for adults as well.
Did you know? IG is pretty restrict about NSFW content? But does it stop anything? No.
Tumblr banning porn just made porn unlabelable, so I cannot filter it out in any way. It also gets posted to random hashtags (there is porn in #halloween there)
It stops stuff from being on Instagram.
I hope you're independently wealthy and can afford legal fees.
What's most important is that you got to feel smug.
What's most important is not having every fucking instance other than .world hanging from a legal thread. Isn't your instance based in the E fucking U? That's not exactly the wild fucking west as far as legal requirements for hosts go.
Believe it or not, I don't want any of this shit going down. I'm not fucking 20, I'm not full of vim and vigor. I don't get a fucking thrill out of fighting with people online anymore. I question why I stay in these communities when everyone seems content to play chicken on the railroad tracks.
I find this hard to believe
That's literally the only reason he does it, otherwise he would've stopped a long time ago.
after two decades of unfettered internet access, I still love picking fights.
maybe I'm just built different
I find it tedious and miserable. I engage for the same reason I can't leave trash on the floor - the inaction irritates me more than the tedious action. If I find trash on the floor constantly in a public area, I'm more likely to leave than become a super-cleaner.
.... bye, I guess.
Man, that constant "I'm the only adult in the room" vibe you try to have is getting ~~obnoxious~~ old.
Yeah, I fucking agree. It's getting real old being the only adult in the room. I didn't realize the admins of most Lemmy instances were just winging it, thinking "Well, when it comes crashing down, it comes crashing down 😊"
Utter zero-foresight techbro shite. Jesus Christ.
Sadly You're not the real adult in the room. You're just a smuglord who's way too high on the smell of their own farts.
Legit, I thought you took your instance more seriously than this. This is basic covering-your-ass shit.
I am not inclined to seriously discuss our instance with people who act obnoxiously.
Well, then I hope you find someone non-obnoxious to discuss it with. Because if you're actually interested in dbzer0 as more than a hobbyist project that breaks when-it-breaks, being able to address and head off legal issues is core to the long-term survival of a site. Whereas acting like being wary of the laws of forces that absolutely can royally fuck your site is fundamentally unreasonable rather than a very real threat that must be addressed one way or another is a great way to get... well, royally fucked.
The law is a spook. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of db0
Exactly. Foucault argued that you can tell when a group has been subjugated, because they start to self-police according to the oppressor's rules. From a liberal perspective, the state is desirable, so an individual internalizing and following the state's laws is desirable.
But from an anarchist perspective, the state is oppressive (and especially so for a fascist state) so internalizing and following the state's laws is tantamount to self-subjugation. And following the laws of a fascist state is acting in support of the fascist state.
So obeying any laws whatsoever is inherently undesirable?
There is a group of Lemmy users that use the "law" to justify their censorship behavior and demands.
It is getting tiring.
But sure if instance owner doesn't wants young people posting on there, they can just block. This silly reasons are just silly though.
Just say you don't want to deal with it and move on.
This appeal to authorita is disingenuous IMHO
Not necessarily, e.g., if they align with your values. But age restricting access to a general purpose platform seems very nanny state to me.
It depends on your opinion. Anarchy isn't a prescriptive unitary ideology, and it's got a lot of different things behind it and subgroups and whatever. You can have Stirner's Egoist perspective on laws, being that you just follow whatever laws suit your own ego, or you can have the Illegalists' perspective on laws, that they're all worth breaking.
Obeying laws that serve no purpose is a bootlicker exercise
Exactly my point.
How about the laws that serve a purpose?
Do you think this is one of those? Do you think a law designed to favor conservative parental rights movements who seek to oppress and own children, and cut them off from their support networks serves a valid or reasonable purpose?
If the law has a clear purpose and that purpose is beneficial to the working class, I don't need it tp be a law. I just go along with it because that's how we make society work.
Now I know you're not only not a real anarchist or have any understanding of anarchism whatsoever but likely a bootlicker too.
I didn't realize anarchism meant never picking which battles to fight at a given time and arena.
What do you mean PJ?
Running a public website of any sort is an incredibly vulnerable position. You can't 'run' or even meaningfully 'fight', all of your information is ultimately traceable back to you, and your main asset is at the whims of the institutions of capitalist society. The more 'battles' you fight using the website as a means not just of organization, education, and agitation, but of a challenge to the law itself, the more your website's effective lifespan will be shortened. In any area which one is going to challenge the law itself using the website, one should be prepared for that fight, not simply as a one-off "Fuck you pigs, I don't answer to your laws" (which anyone who has attempted with a cop squad with a judge-signed warrant outside of their door can assure you is ineffective), but with meaningful arguments and preparations within the context of the society we are fighting these battles in.
Put another way - running a mutual aid nonprofit is generally not the time to give the middle finger to the government on tax filing status, helping immigrants evade ICE is not the time to be flagrantly breaking traffic laws, and a soup kitchen for those abandoned by capitalism is probably not a good arena for challenging sanitation regulations. IF you are going to pick any of those additional fights, you should be prepared, not simply dismissive on ideological grounds - it might warrant the dismissal on ideological grounds, but on practical grounds, you are headbutting a 20 meter-thick brick wall and saying "It's me or you!". The end result is not in question; only the timescale.
You don't have to like the law to use the law against itself; you don't have to be a supporter of the rules of the game to use them to protect yourself. But refusing to acknowledge their existence in a society where the law remains extremely powerful may sate your ideological urges, but it will sink all your ideological projects.
I feel you have a very US-centric and litigious take on this. Afaik it's not illegal (in most places, yet) to discuss the topics of piracy or anarchism on the internet, or to allow younger folks who are interested in these topics to participate in the discussion. Maybe we just have a different outlook on these things. There's nothing we talk about here that hasn't also been discussed on Reddit and many other websites for decades. The alternative is to go the LW route and preemptively self-censor discussions to the point that users can't express their honest opinions any more (e.g. about Luigi). And at that point we might as well close the instance down ourselves as it wouldn't stand for anything.
Anyway, appreciate you being concerned about us.
On the contrary, I want you to discuss the topics of piracy and anarchism online. That's not even close to what I'm trying to get across here. I love that about dbzer0.
The issue comes with the heightened scrutiny from allowing those underage to participate in the instance. There are a whole host of laws regarding how the data of minors is to be handled, and the reason that many sites, at least nominally, exclude minors is because it's a significant burden on limited resources, with a very hefty financial sword of damocles swinging overhead if it's not done 'correctly'. For non-profit, and especially small non-profit, orgs, this can be a deathblow.
CHOOSING to allow minors to participate is not inherently an issue, but DB0 calling other instances PTB and unreasonable for exercising caution in dealing with minors very much calls into question just how seriously it's being taken, especially considering the opinions of other admins in this comment thread. If you aren't covering your asses on this, and on the ball about it, not just "Well, we don't follow laws in these parts", it can end very badly - and very abruptly. It's not some minor point of law that only the bootlickiest of bootlickers even bother to follow - it's a weapon used to take down the unprepared.
On one hand, I certainly have a US-centric take, because that's what I'm most familiar with, and a litigious one, as that's what I'm most concerned with. On the other hand, the EU is considerably stricter about the data of minors than the US, so that's not necessarily against the main point being made here.
Again, I feel the need to point out that censoring Luigi support was done by a couple of mods who interpreted the .world ToS in a very... questionable way. The actual admins clarified that support of Luigi was always allowed, and you see it constantly on .world, because fuck CEOs.
But also, like I said above, I'm not saying censor yourselves. Not in the least. I'm saying be prepared, and don't take underage issues as a non-issue that only chuds are worried about. It can fuck you.
Legit, I just don't want to see dbzer0 go down one of these days because of something that could be guarded against. You're one of the better instances on the Fediverse.
I don't think he does, I think he's just your classic bootlicker who fundamentally is against everything that dbzer0 stands for, maybe us leftists as a whole too. After looking through his history I have a hard time believing he isn't an alt-right troll.
disengage
This is PugJesus were talking about, the dude doesn't know how.
lol