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Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.
An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea
Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we're the bad guys...
At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren't the bad guys?
Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.
Looks at founding fathers... Yeah killed the slavers. Puts blanket over Native Indians. Hides Chinese rail workers under rug. Renames Irish "Indentured workers"
They also killed the Nazis, except for the ones that were useful, of course.
They were clearly talking about the Union during the Civil War...
Yeah that's pretty obvious what's your point?
What's the relevance of the founding fathers, then?
The original slavers you mean?
I'm repeating the words you used. What's the relevance?
You forgot to say please.
Surely you jest in your obtuse interpretation of my composed articulation...
You might want to open up a history book and see when slavery started in the colonies chief.
I kinda root for them in the war of independence
Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).
Presumably, you're the kind of person who thinks we've all been the bad guys the whole time, though. And TBF shit things were done, it's just that everyone else has been even more shit.
Yup
To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a "nuclear deterrent".
I believe you, but do you have a source? That's a pretty big distinction when *they're calling it a "nuclear attack submarine"!
EDIT: Clarification
I used to look for submarines for a living. But you don't have to believe me:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_submarine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_submarine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile_submarine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffren-class_submarine
Thanks for the info. I'm curious if you have more details on what that job was (if you're able to share)! Why did you move on from it?
My current job is to operate electronic sensors on board of an aircraft. I used to work with anti-submarine helicopters. The kind of helicopters that usually operate from a military ship. Now I've been moved to work on a search and rescue aircraft. It's a nice change to be looking for people who actually want to be found.
That's cool...
What would be an example of a submarine that isn't an Attack submarine, only surveillance?
It does not but can carry nuke tipped missiles and even though we have the screw signatures of our allies…this is still a message that the rest of the world except Moscow is looking down on us in disappointment