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It's give and take. China is smart enough to invest in its country and its people. They're making great scientific and technical advances that's on a course that will surpass the west in many areas. The individual rights and freedoms are terrible though to the point where unsanctioned creativity is punished.
Lmao people will say this same shit about the us in 8 years when all the rights have been stripped and it’s run by tech bros
Yes. In many ways, China is exactly what Republicans wet dream about. A single party runs unopposed controlling all elements of government. Criticizing them is illegal. All businesses are protected by the government from uppity customers. Employees are expected to work 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. 6 days a week for few benefits with almost no workers rights..
It's the Republican dream.
You know as much about china as dolphins do about integrated circuits.
This entire website is heavily propagandized about China I’ve noticed. It really sucks that you just can’t seem to have a normal conversation about China anywhere in the internet without propagandized freaks shouting at you that it the worst country that has ever existed
they're also experimenting with dogfighting satellites
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/21/china/china-space-force-dogfighting-satellites-intl-hnk/index.html
We literally have starlink and the US run by fascists with nukes. I don't mind seeing other countries that they threaten ready to combat their information systems.
Is this like how they targeted African countries economies with the Belt and Road Initiative?
Cutting cables is different than "I can cut cables dont touch me."
Fr dawg.
Also, I don't really want to have to learn Mandarin, nom sayin'?
I'm firmly in middle age and don't have the mental capacity to memorize 30,000 Chinese characters or whatever the count is.
Nothing about france can be called normal even with quotation marks.
no it doesn't, you racist.
xi is a harmful influence.
china is more than its politics.
yes, it is racist to hate an entire country of people because of who they are.
that is racism. here look:
"Some deserve to be condemned. And I hate Chinese culture."
idiotic, ignorant and absurd racism.
"And Japanese for that matter."
racism.
"They are dystopian if you take a closer look."
you are obviously ignorant about either of those countries and especially anything about their culture.
which utopian country are you from?
"If a country keeps a horrible leader for that many years, it also tells a lot btw"
oh look, you're blinding ignorance.
xi abolished term limits years ago. he is not kept in power, he seized it; Trump said he would like to do the same thing.
"Normally you would re to get rid of said leaders."
wildly historically inaccurate and ignorant!
"But apparently it’s fine. "
nope, and embarrassingly ignorant.
The only racist asshole who i see in this comment is varik who use racist an as excuse when the asshole dont have more arguments
Unsurprising, you are clearly coming from a limited awareness and perspective. Best of luck.
dig your head deep in the sand, if you can't live without that
Nobody is going to join you down there except other racists. Have fun with each other.
china is its politics. its culture has been majorly reshaped by their dystopian shit. Basically no one there questions their surveillance, what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it
Funny reading this on lemmy where almost every single discussion is dominated by US politics, even on posts that have nothing to do with politics.
"china is its politics."
Absurdly ignorant.
You think a 3000 year old country as large as the US with 1.4 billion people is defined by the recent political actions of a single leader who seized power a decade ago?
You are perceptually limited here, not the Chinese people and their culture.
You are woefully ignorant of both what "china" and "politics" are.
"Basically no one there questions their surveillance"
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any evidence of this lack of questioning from 1.4 billion people? The protests? Articles? No? Of course you don't you're dead wrong.
"what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it"
Chinese people are regularly censured and go to jail for protesting against Xi policies. Go ahead and provide a shred of evidence for your ignorant claims.
That seems less concerning to me after reading the article.
It’s concerning that they are developing the capability (which can be used in multiple ways) in the same way that any geopolitical rival developing capacity that competes is concerning, but “dogfighting” evokes the idea that China is planning to fly around and blow stuff up, in an irresponsible, Kessler syndrome-inducing way.
china is pretty cool.
xi has been a harmful influence.
Yeah man zero AI facial recognition tech in the USA that stuff is only for the evil Chinese. Listen to yourself you propagandized idiot
"I disagree"
I'mthen you're objectively wrong, as you are disagreeing with facts.
"China is a scary place"
like the US.
"with face recognition and all that shit."
like the US.
"I wouldn’t ever travel there."
good, they don't need your racism you would be an embarrassment.
"If my job sent me there, I would rather quit than travel to china. "
small favors.
". Also Chinese culture in general is pretty unappealing to me"
you obviously know nothing about Chinese culture, and are obviously very racist.
"who is used to a free life...."
houoooo
which "free" country are you from?
"I hate the whole thing, not just the government.
But please note that I do not blanket hate all Chinese people though. "
this is going to shock you, bigot, but all Chinese people are "the whole thing" that you are insulting, despite your racist tantrum being born out of obvious ignorance.
"Someone is very butthurt. Probably Chinese, by chance?"
nope, just smart,well-traveled and knowledgeable.
and.... not a racist like you!
I followed the thread just to see where it landed and I was not disappointed.
And for a well travelled and knowleadgeable person, you give off a very narrow view.
So, in one corner, we have an authoritarian regime, well established, known for violently suppressing minorities and heavilly surveill the citizens, take over territories, and constantly menace and threaten others, while thriving by manipulating money flow world wide and internally using slave work to run their industries.
On the other, we have the exact same thing, but flag and language changes. And classical political quadrant.
You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it. Chinese were lead into an authoritarian regime through force, Americans were subtly led to the same through fear. The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.
If we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts, willingly.
You hate the culture as a whole? Or hate just the regressive/reactionary/conservative/more traditional(to a westerner) elements of it?
"I literally said that I don’t hate Chinese people, I hate the culture"
hating a culture, especially when you don't know anything about except the race of the people who make that culture, is racist.
what you actually said is:
"That country fucking sucks ass."
these are your new arguments:
"That is not racist to hate „work to death“ and „be worthless unless you reach a certain social status“ etc. "
nobody said that was racist, because you haven't said those before.
what is racist is you not liking Chinese people and their culture for no reason other than their race.
I am glad you are changing your position.
"I’m sure there a nice aspects."
there are many.
"But most of the culture seems forced and cruel."
this is a statement born of ignorance, you can't draw this conclusion because you obviously don't know anything about the culture.
as seen here:
"It’s all dependent on social status and that’s kinda sad."
this is incorrect, stop drawing racist conclusions based on your assumptions and ignorance.
"how is this possibly racist?"
what is racist is you not liking Chinese people and their culture for no reason other than their race.
to the point that you will vehemently insult an entire country, including its people, despite not knowing what you're talking about.
It's all good dude. The other people reading this realize you're not a racist, and that other guy you're arguing with is extremely narrow in his definition and unnecessarily combative over semantics, to the point of being anal-retentive.
Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda. Either you drank the Koolaid, or your trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government.
"Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda"
i warned against condemning and insulting am entire country of people and their culture because the self-appointed dictator is a harmful influence.
so by me criticizing the head of the CCP and his harmful influence on China, you are seeing "CCP propaganda"?
sounds like you might be influenced by...propaganda.
"trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government."
how does my criticism of the head of the Chinese government in charge of all policy decisions in the last decade fool youn into support of the Chinese government?