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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

This is actually really cool. Cooler if maybe they can pay taxes next!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Would you want a food bank to pay taxes?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is a post about churches.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I know. They are also functioning as a food bank. They are a non-profit acting in a charitable manner.

Do ypu think they should engage in less charity so they can pay taxes?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, they should not pay takes for money they can justify they used for charity.

Building mega-churches, having expensive cars and jets is not charity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Building mega-churches, having expensive cars and jets is not charity.

That’s also extremely uncommon in almost all churches/denominations. The overwhelming majority of churches in the USA are mainstream denominations.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What exactly do you mean by mainstream? Evangelicals are the largest branch of Christianity in America. Hell white evangelicals alone are 13 percent of all Americans which is tied for the largest group of all.

https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Evangelical churches are not a single denomination but rather are a collection of unaffiliated churches.

The reality is the mega church that owns private jets is extremely uncommon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

I guess we'll just pretend the Vatican doesn't exist

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I dunno about other churches but I'm pretty sure the one I grew up in gave away donated food. Paying taxes wouldn't impact that at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They do other charitable work that isn’t handing out donated food. There is of course expenses associated with storing and giving out that food as well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You'll be furious to know that the workers are almost entirely volunteers as well. The cost to the church directly is negligible. And I'm still sure whatever other charitable work they do would not be significantly impacted by paying taxes. If anything, the money generated could do infinitely more good in expanding welfare programs. Charity is a band aid, not a solution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

My mom ran one for over a decade. You might be surprised to find out your assertions are not correct in my experience as the people running food banks are in fact paid.

The US social net was built around religious charity and it is sophomoric to presume the state would utilize increased tax revenue to replace what was lost.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If they operated full time as a food bank and didn't proselytize to the people they are helping, then they shouldn't pay taxes. If they preach and try to convert people to their religion during their service, then I'm going to bet they try to do that to the people they feed. Preying upon people in their weakest moments is not a good thing to do, but it's all I've ever seen Christians do

Edit: "Marianists emphasized the power of small communities to “renew Christianity” following the French Revolution." If this is their emphasis, then they should definitely be paying taxes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ok so the issue is your disdain for religion. You would be fine with a different food bank not paying taxes but only because they share your lack of faith.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

Yes. I'm not sure why you seem confused. The premise is churches should pay taxes. I'm not sure what you don't understand about that. They should pay taxes. They are influencing people's opinions on our politics and policies. They should pay taxes. They are influencing people in their weakest moments. They should pay taxes. Do you understand that I believe any religious institution should pay taxes? I hope you aren't confused still.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

We wouldn't need that much charity if they paid their fucking taxes

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Churches should pay taxes that's all. Don't complicate it. Why would paying taxes force them to engage in less charity? Are you saying they're incapable of doing both?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The whole basis of the no taxing thing was because of the charity. I'm fine with small churches who do a lot of good for their community being exempt, the problem are the mega churches who make mountains of money and do nothing good with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not. They can register as a tax-exempt charity and do the paperwork like all the other tax-exempt charities.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If they are paying taxes they have less money to engage in charitable works. Is this not immediately apparent?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

There are plenty of tax-exempt charities. And they file paperwork and meet several conditions. Churches don't.

If churches want to be tax-exempt, they should meet the same criteria as the other charities.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Paying taxes immediately benefits everyone in the community. Helps pay for schools, roads, police and fire, etc. Do you not know how taxes work? There's also the added benefit of not being proselytized at.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

These taxes can be used to support food banks. So the church would receive subsidies.

Tax and transfers. Income inequality is 0,26 in my country and 0,41 in yours. Even china is down to 0,35.

Charity doesn't seem to work. Taxes do work.

I don't need to feel good about doing something nice for someone else. I just pay taxes and the person doing something nice gets paid to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Then they can file like every other nonprotand prove it through their finances, instead of the idiotic rubber stamp they get - including those megachurch abominations that drive lambos onto the stage of their sermons and own multiple private jets.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes! They can deduct anything they donate from their taxes!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you want fewer groups doing charitable work? Who do you think is picking up that slack since progressive candidates have not traditionally suggested creating new ones that aren’t religious?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

If they are doing as much charity work as they claim they are, then there’s no issue, since it will all be deductible.

No harm, no foul. Only hurts the liars and the cheats. Win, win.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I would like a for-profit organisation that is occasionally gives food on their conditions to pay taxes.

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