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[–] [email protected] 113 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not to sound confrontational, but you're way too focused on your - likely rather advanced - usage.

90% of people search for very simple stuff. They want to know the weather or want to know about that new movie they don't quite remember the name of. And for that use case, Google is perfectly serviceable. And since people are used to it, for example by it being the default on most platforms, they use it.

A lot of market leaders are objectively a bad choice, but they're a known brand. Coca cola, McDonald's, Oracle, etc.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you sound confrontational, but neither do I consider my internet searching particularly advanced. A lot of my searches are exactly what you describe, and a lot is trying to find a good research rabbit hole to go down. Call me curious.

I'm just sceptical, primarily of Google Search's inroads into surveillance monetisation and effective monopoly. For the same reasons I am as critical of the other "market leaders" you mention; I don't consider the ability to inspire brand loyalty in millions of consumers to sell crap products a quality 🀷

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would honestly consider anyone that uses Lemmy or the Fediverse to be more advanced than the average user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

On average maybe, but no individual is average and Lenny is growing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

google is perfectly serviceable

I would go even one step further. For dumb little things like a movie or song you can't remember, or a factoid to win an argument amongst friends the AI summaries are really helpful.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah no. Just had someone IRL try to use the AI summary to prove something that was blatantly false.

Even more fitting: factoid means something believed to be true, but is false. It's not a "cute little tidbit of info" like you used it as.

So yeah, AI summaries are full of factoids, you are correct.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I actually did use "factoid" correctly here. According to the Cambridge dictionary the Definition is

an interesting piece of information

And that's exactly what I use it for. I'm not talking about debating economic policy on national television (but tbf, the ai summary probably does a better job than the talking heads haha) but just stupid little things you """debate""" with your friends.

Some examples Ive used it for recently.

"Were the cars in mad max real cars" and heres the response

Yes, the vehicles in the Mad Max films, especially Fury Road, are based on real, modified cars, rather than CGI or camera effects, with over 150 real cars used in the filming of Fury Road. Here's a more detailed look

And then it had some details about some of the big cars. And then it linked to articles like this one or this one

Or "how much does a da Vinci (surgery robot) cost?", and heres it's answer:

The cost of a da Vinci surgical robot typically ranges from $1.5 million to $2.5 million.

And then had some details of different models of da Vinci machines. But it also linked to this source and this source

And those are just two of the recent searches I have in my search history. For stupid factoids like that it's really great. For anything more nuanced or complicated than that it falls apart.

And yeah it has incorrect information sometimes. But you know what else gets incorrect information? Me when I drunkenly skim the first article that pops up while my friends drunkenly yell over each other. So id say it washes out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Google AI: quality you can rely on (when you’re blacked out)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

And that's good enough for me because that's all I use it for lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that's funny, cus the AI summary for "what is a factoid" told me it's an incorrectly believed idea. So which is it? Is the AI correct and you're wrong, or is the AI incorrect and you're still wrong?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How 'bout you go check the dictionary? You know, the dictionary that was explicitly cited above.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Whooooosh

If the AI summary is incorrect, then his point about trusting AI is incorrect. If the AI summary is correct, then it contradicts what he said the definition is and he is once again incorrect. Literally, no matter what, he's wrong. It's was a fun way to show the absurdity of blindly trusting AI. His logic itself is flawed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

or a factoid to win an argument amongst friends the AI summaries are really helpful.

People have tried to use these against me already. It's not helpful because all they get is a mouthful of how shitty and chronically incorrect AI summaries are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I said it's helpful to win an argument. Not 100% perfectly correct every single time lmfao

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

If you knew when it was and was not correct then you wouldn't need it in the first place.