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I visit .ml and while I do occasionally get cross threaded with them they are, overall, not terrible. Yes some of the people associated with their instance can be over the top but by and large they are just people with a different viewpoint.
I tried to do the same with hexbear but ultimately couldn't, which may be my problem more than theirs.
I'm fairly left on the political spectrum, probably further than most, but hexbear and a lot of .ml are left to the max, as in they're tankies. I can't stand right-wingers much, but tankies are worse by a large margin.
Shit, they attempted to harass and dox me when I offered an opinion that didn't agree with their very rigid worldview. I kept poking at their stubbornness then they banned me. I'm a stubborn SOAB myself.
Now I'm questioning if I should continue to use this platform. I've definitely started using it less since then, knowing that this platform is run by tankies.
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I agree, I'm not a neo-lib, I'm a demsoc.
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No dawg, you're thinking of socdems. Which are still better than tankies.
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You must hate all countries then because they all use aspects of capitalism to further their gains. I agree though the goal is to ween off of capitalism into proletariat owned socialism. Unfortunately for tankies I won't be used as a tool for their wanton violence against those that disagree. My demsoc flavor emphasizes humanism over hatred.
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Aspects of capitalism: private businesses, private homeownership, private agriculture, classism, investments into foreign countries, foreign investment into said country, etc
As long as you're not a tankie or authoritarian I don't really have a problem with many of the particulars. Just know lots of MLs are tankies.
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No it's not, Tankies are very clearly defined to be "Authoritarians"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
And it's demonstrated by
Perpetuating Russian talking points like Ukraines invasion just being a "negotiating tactic" https://lemmy.world/post/27012640 and their open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415 and even defending concentration camps as "concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren't that bad https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
I've got Tankies supporting Trump because he's doing what they want: https://lemmy.world/post/28033872 and basically stating with Trump it's an ends justify the means kinda thing: https://lemmy.world/post/27950020 censoring comments that just say you shouldn't romanticize Stalin and the USSR: https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
And much much more on [email protected]
Nah, tankie is pretty synonymous with authoritarian communism, which is no bueno in my book.
Capitalism can not be defeated without exercising some level of authority. It's a class war.
You plan to serve in the new empire's army? Becoming a stormtrooper?
Do you plan on defeating capitalism by asking nicely?
The revolution won't be polite, civil, or peaceful. Our enemies won't just let us win.
Read more history, watch fewer movies about wizards in space.
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You're apparently fine with non-communist authoritarianism then, given that capitalism requires the authoritarian enclosure of the Earth's common and the forcible restriction of human movement into centrally controlled "nation states".
I genuinely don't get why y'all use this as an insult. Liberal has been bastardized from its original roots of pretty much modern day libertarianism, which is a deeply unserious party. Not even corrupt neolibs compare to that.
Here's where you might get me, I don't see us transitioning into a socialist system without excessive violence, unless we use capitalism to get us there. I don't want violence that's undue, I don't want the death of innocents, and I don't want authoritarianism from a single fallible person. Corruption is always the ruining factor of any ideology.
I fail to see how those views qualify me as a liberal, not even a neolib.
I've had the same experience. Hexbear won't accept any nuance when it comes to Palestine or homeless people.
Checkout [email protected]
It's not just people with different viewpoints, the admins are actively pushing an authoritarian agenda and censor any dissent against those views. And I have a bunch documented on that comm of the shenanigans they get up to. .ml is more subtle about things than the rest of the Tankie Triad (Hex and Grad) to avoid larger calls of defederation, but they absolutely share the same Authoritarian "ideology"
That's why they sound like conservatives
Not necessarily, they resemble the way conservatives comments way too much, I avoid it as much as possible. They use the same things right wingers use to prove a point
You should worry more about the content of what people say, not the form.