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The third that didn't vote essentially said "I'm happy either way". I don't think that's much better.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Voting for a party is a form of acknowledging you agree with the party. A lot of people don’t agree with either party (and I know there are other parties in theory, practically speaking, there are two). The Republican Party is terrible but so is the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is better than the Republican Party and it would make sense to vote for Democratic Party to prevent the Republican Party from taking power. But I can appreciate people not wanting to explicitly support the Democratic Party either. Democratic politicians do as much insider trading and take as many legal bribes as Republican politicians. The US political system rewards bad behaviour. Not voting doesn’t signal that people are happy either way, it could as easily signal that people are sad either way.
This comment is an excellent example of the kind of BS that helped Trump win.
John Stuart Mill in 1867 said: "Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject."
I’m not justifying not voting, I’m explaining that not voting doesn’t mean “I’m happy either way”. If you were a Palestinian and watched the Democratic party continue to arm the Israeli Defence Forces as they targeted civilians, you might find it hard to give them your vote, even though the alternative is worse. Have more compassion.
You're arguing for the both sides are the same front while saying "have more compassion". It's worse end of story, the present situation is worse. This situation has been caused by apathetic voters. Cause and effect.
No I'm not, I literally said "even though the alternative is worse". And again, I’m not justifying not voting, I’m explaining that not voting doesn’t mean “I’m happy either way”.
And this is the bullshit reasoning that got us into this mess.
The time to have principles is in the Primary, where you and your buddies go out and convince the rest of the Democratic leaning people that maybe we should impress AOC or some other leftie to run in the Primaries, then convince people in places like this to vote for that leftie in the Primary. Once the Primary happens, you have to weigh what happened and will happen, and vote accordingly. By not voting, the people you're insisting I have compassion for voted for the Shitgibbon and everything he has done. Harris might have continued funding the IDF, but because of the people you're sucking up to here, Trump is directly supporting the genocide with an eye for preemo real-estate after it's said and done.
Don't be stupid and enable that cruelty. Wait. Too late for that~!
wtf are you talking about? Again, I’m not justifying not voting, I’m explaining that not voting doesn’t mean “I’m happy either way”.
Being “sad either way” is equally stupid. Feel free to argue that both options are bad but anyone with two braincells should be able to understand that one option is worse. Choosing to abstain is choosing to enable the worse option. Vote independent if you want, but fucking vote.
or... they said "Neither party fights for me. Both are trying to screw me over. Why should I support either one?"
Because one will deport innocent people to torture prison and the other one won't?
Or have you convinced yourself that Kamala would've done these things? That's a rhetorical question, don't bother repeating bullshit internet rationalizations for why you couldn't be bothered to take a few hours to go vote against fascism.
I mean... Biden did that, why wouldn't Kamala have done the same? She promised to continue the Biden policies.
And FWIW, I did vote against fascism
Biden was not deporting people without trial to torture prisons. You may have been consuming too much tankie propaganda if you believe that.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hand-restraints-and-black-out-goggles