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I think it's important to downvote them and even make them feel unwelcome. You can't let Nazis and white supremacists in your communities because any community that doesn't kick out Nazis will eventually find itself overrun by Nazis fleeing communities that kick them out.
You don't need to argue or make a fuss, but make sure to downvote anyone who doesn't believe all people are born equal and that people have a right to choose what to do and who to love.
People downvote me all the time and I just think "well they're wrong, I've laid out my argument and they can't refute it". So I imagine Nazis feel the same way when you downvote them.
Edit: case in point
Imagine being able to justify yourself by finding commonality with Nazis.
That's.... not what they are saying. They are critiquing the strategy. If nazzis and I agree 1+1 makes 2 that doesn't mean we're all Nazzis.
I don't understand why so many struggle with addressing the message and are so eager to shoot the messenger. It's weird but really common on Lemmy.
Using one example to make the rule is bad logic.
Okay, let me try and help. You said this:
Now, we’re going to count many examples you used to illustrate your point:
I counted one, and this was it right here:
Using a single example to make a point of comparison is dumb. Because one could just as easily say that I breathe air, and similarly, so do hamsters, therefore- I must be a hamster.
Demonstrably, this is untrue. And it’s a dumb argument to make. And it’s not the argument I made. I simply said that calling upon a similarity shared with Nazis isn’t going to make the point one would probably wish to make.
(And the plural of Nazi is “Nazis.” Don’t be afraid to spell their name correctly. It’s not for the purpose of showing respect to them, it’s showing respect to the person that has to read what you’re saying)
NO IM NOT!
Which is?
Done!
Well now that’s fucking disappointing. I thought for sure there’d be some kind of reward for having to deal with some random’s little White Knight complex. I mean, you barged in here to the defense when you weren’t even called upon! Should I have just conceded right there and fed your horse for you?
Debate bro indeed.
No man there is no white knight complex. Again, with the weird labels.
However, there is a weird fixation with users on this platform unable to engage with a topic without having to categorize and label whoever they are engaging with.
For instance: Someone pointed out an extremely neutral fact and it went straight to "well you're a nazi". It's kinda sad and ultimately I just question what even is the point of discussing anything on this platform when it will always escalate within 1-2 comments to boxing someone into some kind of ad hominem or label the way you did?
Do you just delete the comments you make that get downvoted? It’s bad for lemmy to disrupt discussion by fragmenting conversations because you don’t “win.”
Either own what you say, or don’t say it.
Yea i deleted the comments because they weren't constructive and it seemed you wanted to talk about anything except the main thing I (and others) have highlighted for you so what's the point.
It's an unusual scenario that I've found is very typical of this particular platform and I'm very intrigued by this phenomenon. A really high percentage of conversations here seems very invested in labeling the other rather than addressing the argument presented. It's particularly felt on Lemmy. It's probably trivial to you, but it's so frequent in my experience here that I'm beginning to wonder what about this place drives every conversation into an instant indictment of the other?
For instance, I'm really curious why in this particular case when someone pointed out why downvoting has little to no effect in changing behavioral outcomes your first instinct was to classify that person into the same category as the initial example?
Like, what led you to seek out that indictment in situ right out of the bat? Was it the way they phrased it? Did it remind you of a past story or example?
What aspect of the statement:
"down votes are not compelling"
made you go straight to : "aha! You have commonality with Nazis! "?
What intrigues me, is when people using batshit stupid singular examples like- how ignorant it is to find similarity in two people that correctly use math to illustrate commonality with Nazis, as an argument in defense of someone showing a direct commonality with Nazis-
And then arguing against their own point in another thread.
You really need to keep better track of your arguments. It’ll save you the embarrassment of having to delete your hypocrisy.
So you don't have an answer for why you escalated so fast to name calling. It's just second nature to you. Got it.
I beg that you accept my profuse apologies for making you way those endless hours for my return. I had no idea you fancied me so. And were I to have known, I may’ve not quickened to my slumber so!
/s
Look dude. You really need to let this go. You and your sock puppet have been following me in and out of conversations to the point that I’m not sure which of the three or four in as many communities that I’ve had with you- you’re even talking about.
Just let it go and walk away. Seriously. Learn to accept that while you’re free to offer your opinion, it doesn’t have to mean shit to anyone else but you. There is no entitlement you have to anyone’s time or effort here, just like there is no obligation we have to accept your opinion as truth. This applies to me as well- which is why I’m not bothering to argue to you to change your mind. I don’t care if I’m right. I just started my opinion that is all!
Plain as.
And it seems to me, that others might feel the same, because the ratios show it. Clearly few aside from your little friend seems to really care about your goals to out me as wrong, and even if I were- who cares. It’s the internet.
Just, learn to let go.
Haha what a wall of text but not a single response to the original question. It's like the 6th wall of text from you but at no point do you engage with the topic.
This is the laziest form of trolling. I suppose everyone needs a hobby
Again, I have no clue what question you’re obsessing over. You’ve followed me across several communities now-
refresh me so that I can answer and cull your sad desperation, my man.
Oh and seriously? You’re doing the whole “wall of text” bit?
It’s called EFFORT my man. If I wanted to troll you, I’d harass you about a dumb fucking question across several instances until you felt the need to offer a wall of text to get me to ba-
Ohhhhh! I get it now.
Yeah. Good job kiddo. Thanks for helping me see what you’re up to.
Blocking you now.
I see. This makes sense. I was hoping for some complex mysterious motivation for these types of comments. Moving on I guess. 🙂
You're obsessed with this singular logical example I provided but you refuse to answer my main question. It's odd.
I'm going to ask again: what about someone declaring "down votes don't affect behavioral outcomes" made you go straight to: "wow. You have so much in common with nazis".
I've asked this like three or four times, and each reply you write focuses only on the bad logic about the analogy I provided earlier.
Why won't you answer my main question? Is it because it makes you seem unhinged? I'm not interested in judging you. I'm just curious why? Why was that the first thing that you thought to write? Why won't you answer this question? So far you've only talked about the analogy I gave and it's been like three or four replies. I'm really curious.
Bye!
We aren't allowed to critique strategy or work together to better ourselves or our plans with outside views that allow us to see and adjust to match an ever changing world...
That would be so bad for my social media feed. The algorithm would have to completely relearn what I like and that would be a hassle.
He means that the nazis wont give a samb about the downvotes and that it would be better to be clear to their faces.
That’s what I thought I was doing.
.ml hmmmm
Edit: Actually with the age of your account that probably doesn't mean much
Maybe,,, I dunno.... some self reflection to understand WHY people downvote you all the time, might improve something about you?
I just scrolled my post history and picked an example. Like why is this downvoted? It's literally just an answer to OP on how to do what they want https://lemmy.ml/comment/18043111
You have roughly the same amount of downvotes as OP, based on context folks were probably reflexively downvoting because it’s an AI discussion.
On top of that, I think we should be clear about what we don't like. Right wing isn't itself evil, but low rung right wing ideology will send us back to the dark ages. As would low rung left wing ideology. We must strive to be better, entertaining only high rung ideas in conversation, in order to elevate our collective understanding