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By Professor Marc Murphy of the Brandeis School of Law

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It was rejected for being extremely distasteful.

It's not wrong, but there's no tie in to the administration that makes the image need to be the scene of thousands of people murdered by terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trump's terrible response to COVID19 resulted in a daily thousand people dead for nearly three years, 10,000 a week at it's peak, almost a million in total.

His admin has also been accused many times of using terror tactics.

I think 20 years is long enough that political cartoonists can make 9/11 similes without worrying too much about pearl clutching.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Americans aren't very good at history, but most of them can at least keep this millennium straight...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Not really. "Conservative"/now far right media "entertainment" networks went wild for those 20+ years and managed to garner greater support for an ever further learning pro-fascist edge. It was overly effective for some and now it's a runaway train.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's not pearl clutching, I'm saying it's not a well designed comic. If he wanted it to be about Covid, he could have drawn it that way.

As seen by how you're saying "no, people died of Covid" and other people are saying "no, people are being deported" and you both are at least notionally interpreting this political cartoon that has labels, none of which mention any of that proves you have to make one too many leaps in logic.

It's just generic "Trump bad" which like I said, I agree with, I just don't like the cartoon.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

I took the analogy not as "Trump equals terrorism and death" but that Trump's attack on the rule of law and the Constitution is at least as big of a threat and should be met with an equally vigorous response by a united United States. The cartoonist could have done it in the style of the Pearl Harbor attack and it would have achieved the same metaphor, though probably wouldn't have had the same gut-punch effect.

Point is it should be a lightning rod for America to act. Sad that it is not.

Also, not condoning the wars that followed 9/11 and the Patriot act and all of the other bullshit we got because of it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Thousands of people are on the verge of being murdered/deported by terrorists now, seems like a fair comparison to me.

[–] zipzoopaboop 7 points 1 month ago

He's killed way more than 911

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

How much blood will be on their hands before this is over. I totally get this image.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Trump and his cult are terrorists though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You certainly have a point that doesn't deserve to be downvoted like that.

Are you New Yorkian, by any chance?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not the person you replied to, but I'm a New Yorker. I lived near the city on 9/11. My friends lost family members. My dad was across the street from the towers and thankfully made it out alive.

I've downvoted every single 9/11 joke I've ever seen. I've personally shut down people who made 9/11 jokes in real life. It's not really something to make jokes about.

But this comic is right. 9/11 was the defining moment of my generation. It changed America for the worse.

Comparing that to Trump's fascist takeover is apropos.