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I know there’s great love for Oblivion (I never played it when it was new), and of course Skyrim is the gold standard for new fans (I played the shit out of that and it was my first entry into the elder scrolls back when it came out 14 years ago…) but I really feel like this shadow drop of a half assed remake is just priming everyone to lower their expectations for the likely dumpster fire that is The Elder Scrolls VI.

I know its old hat nonsense of a complaint but whatever Bethesda used to be it stopped being that 20 years ago and we’re all just stuck thinking they’ll put out some new masterpiece when in reality all the talent they had back in the day has likely left for other jobs and they are now just a shitty company among countless other shitty companies putting profit over anything else and stifling anyone who might actually have good ideas on how to make good games (how unsurprising).

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's not even much of a remaster. They just slapped a coat of paint on it.

The Gamebryo/Creation Engine is still there running the game, it just uses Unreal 5 for the graphical elements. And they updated some of the levelling to work more like Skyrim, because the Oblivion system sucked in comparison.

It's still the same 20 year old Oblivion under the hood.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but calling it a remaster is a bit disingenuous.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you think "remaster" actually mean?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

More than a coat of paint. They didn't actually port the game to Unreal 5, they just used it to make the graphics look better. The modding community could have done this years ago if that's all they wanted to do. Skyblivion is more of a remaster than this official one.

With all of the resources of the original development and sources, I expect more than the modding community is capable of.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Emm, no. If you build something from the ground up it's called remake.(Demon Souls, the Resident Evil series) Remastered is taking the old game and put on a fresh paint of coat and give it some modern QOL so it's much more accessible today.

Skyblivion is closer to remake than remaster.

Also i feels like you misunderstand why people like this game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If you're fine paying $50-60 for what amounts to a community graphical overhaul mod that's fine. I expect more from an actual developer with access to the source code.

A remaster should be releasing Oblivion with an updated engine and graphics, and bringing in some gameplay enhancements from newer games. Technically this meets those requirements, but only by the bare minimum and all of those can be achieved with community mods for free.

A remake would be completely abandoning the decrepit Gamebryo/Creation Engine that's clearly dragging all of their games down now, and has been for over a decade, and actually giving us something that doesn't feel like it came out 20+ years ago.

I love the Elder Scrolls, Oblivion is one of my favorite games of all time, and the only one I ever bothered to get every achievement for back on the 360. But I won't accept a half assed remaster for nearly full price just because it's what Bethesda wants to distract everyone from the fact that Elder Scrolls 6 isn't coming out anytime soon and they couldn't just release Skyrim for the 12th time.

Don't accept paying for mediocre products just because you're desperate for content.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

You're describing a remake, which isn't what this remaster is. A remaster is literally what this is, just like Diablo 2 Resurrected a few years ago

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The only real problem here is the price. It should've been more like $30.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

That's literally what remaster are, a new coat of paint

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

They literally had a hour long stream explaining what they did, and then you could have watched any of the thousands of twitch streams showing it. There was zero reason that you should have bought this if you thought this. I knew exactly what I was buying, seems like pretty much everyone did.

You are describing a remake. A remaster is a fresh coat of paint. Todd Howard said verbatim "This is not a remake" and then talked about his reasons why. You're going on like they lied to you when they literally said everything you just complained about, and then you still bought it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

And they updated some of the levelling to work more like Skyrim, because the Oblivion system sucked in comparison

Updated how exactly? Oblivion and Skyrim both have pretty serious flaws. I believe there are popular mods to fix the Oblivion system in a way that still feels like Oblivion, though it's been a long time since I've read in to any of it.