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Self-styled prophets are claiming they have 'awakened' chatbots and accessed the secrets of the universe through ChatGPT.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Weird cults victimizing people are literally prehistoric in age. It's a bit "hue and cry"-ish to go into a moral panic over "AI cults".

There's plenty to criticize in modern "AI" (beginning with "it doesn't work"). Let's not make stupid reasons up!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (8 children)

the "weird cults" are now in your pocket and with you 24/7. I would argue that the negative effect of LLMs (and their masters) on society potentially runs much deeper than your comment suggests.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (7 children)

This is almost word for word what's been said about every new technology or social trend for my entire life. "This new thing is worse than everything that has ever come before and the Apocalypse is nigh."

Sorry. After hearing this over and over and over and over again all my life I just don't take this kind of moral panic seriously.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You know the Boy Who Cried Wolf? That's basically the situation we're in, the boy has been crying wolf (technology is going to kill us!) for decades and decades with every new invention. Now you don't believe the boy anymore.

But the wolf still comes at the end of the story. Don't forget that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"The story" is the key part of this, however.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think another thing you're missing is that while advances in technology historically didn't bring about the apocalypse, they have on numerous occasions been the catalyst for major social upheaval and disaster. Society and culture has to adjust to these kinds of changes to what is possible, and that is not always pretty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not "missing" anything, Sparky. I've lived through quite a few such changes, and it wasn't pretty.

I just don't see anything special about this particular one that renders the moral hue and cry. Like I said at the start: there's plenty of real reasons to target AI. People deluding themselves into a cult is not one of them, since people have been deluding themselves into cults even before the historical record, likely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

The difference with these AI cults is that the AI is essentially standing in for the cult leader. A cult leader that can speak to millions simultaneously in one-on-one personal conversations is something new that is going to have real world consequences.

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