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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Because the better plan has historically always led to a failed state and all of our enemes are cheering it on.

When Anarchists and Tankies are capitalising on a situation the outcomes are as predictable as the Trump Agenda.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh look, blatant historical ignorance to the reasons that led to a failed state. Of course it was intrinsic to the philosophy, absolutely not due to outside interference and manipulation from decades of concentrated effort by the capitalist hegemony.

Look, the state itself as a concept has its issues, but your perspective of the situation is just flat bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was also the widespread belief about democracy until the 1700s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not really, Greece practiced democracy for hundreds of years and it was pretty well documented.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Pah, Greek democracy was interesting, but very limited given how narrow their Deimos was with women, foreign residents and slaves not counting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes really, it was considered a failure despite those well-documented centuries.

"Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

— James Madison, Federalist Papers 10 & 51

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

historically always led to a failed state

Failed state (USSR) is when you turn a feudal backwater country (Russian Empire) with a life expectancy of 28 years into the second world industrial power within 50 years and provide universal free healthcare, education, pensions for retirement, eliminate unemployment and homelessness, and you don't exploit the resources and labour of the global south. Oh, and you save Europe from Nazism, which is what this post was originally about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In this hypothetical also get to starve millions of people to death and your legacy gets to be sending out late night death squads to kill dissenters. Well, not you. You would never be in charge. You will never be Joseph Stalin, somebody else will be and you will suffer with the rest of the peasants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Millions of people routinely starved in pre-Soviet Russia and you don't seem to have a problem with it. Soviets ended hunger after WW2 through the mechanisation of agriculture, as all countries which eliminated hunger did. Suffering famines during civil wars, during Nazi invasion of your territory, and during mass collectivisation processes, isn't exclusive to the Soviet Union, it's a rather common thing in preindustrial societies as the Soviet Union was at that time. That's in opposition to England murdering many millions more of Indians in the Bengal famine during WW2 by purposefully extracting essentially all food from some regions of India.

your legacy gets to be sending out late night death squads to kill dissenters

Thats just, like, your opinion, dude. The legacy of the Soviet Union (a project much greater than a single man who was president for less than 3 decades of the project) saved Europe from Nazism (saving tens if not hundreds of millions of lives in the process), industrialised 300 million people without abusing colonialism and extraction of resources and labour from the global south, rose life expectancy from 28 years to 70, guaranteed free education to the highest level to all women and men of the country, produced the lowest historically recorded levels of inequality in the region, and eliminated homelessness and unemployment.

Stop swallowing and spreading western anticommunist propaganda, the evil is the western empire oppressing billions in the global south, not a country that suffered famines during land collectivisation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No that's not accurate. Centralized agricultural planning in pre-soviet Russia was still better than what the Soviets implemented, this was all very well documented that more people died as a result of the changes made.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Centralized agricultural planning in pre-soviet Russia was still better than what the Soviets implemented

Life expectancy was 28 years old before the Bolsheviks, after the land reforms and WW2 life expectancy rose dramatically to 60, what on Earth are you talking about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In 1845 it was 29, in 1920 it was 25, in 1945 it was 23.

They didnt beat 50 until the USSR had been around for 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

LMFAO you literally went to the first google link provides on "life expectancy of Russia historic", the Statista website, and purposefully cherrypicked the two lowest points in the history of the USSR, which coincide with wars they famously didn't start (first being the civil war, second being WW2).

Why not pick 1930, the second year since land collectivization began, with the 37 years of life expectancy already (higher than at any point during Tsarism)? Why not pick 1940 with 41.5 years of life expectancy before Nazis invaded the USSR and murdered 27 million people?

You're a fucking joke lmao trying to lie to yourself by cherrypicking the lowest values coinciding with wars imposed on the Soviet Union

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

isn' RSA better than aes? i thought aes' keyspace was only like 56 bits or something.

edit: i looked it up. aes can take a 256 bit key. i was thinking of DES.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You responded to the wrong comment

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i don't think so. i was making note of your username ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oh hahaha it's actually a reference to Actually Existing Socialsim, but thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People would have lived longer and healthier if the USSR hadnt starved them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lmao keep trying, loser, you're just lying to yourself with your cherrypicking, not anyone else

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Uh no the stats hurt your feelies

Po widdle baybee

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Loser, keep lying to yourself. You had done exactly 0 research on it, you went to the literal first google link and cherry picked the two data points that suited you. You probably didn't even know about the fucking Russian civil war, uneducated swine

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. If we had all just fallen in line president delacruz would be fixing shit right now. She was electable if these fucking anarchists would have voted for her!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Clearly didnt even read your ballot. Fucking shameful. This is why we're being ruled by fascists.