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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.

Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'd rather prefer both sides losing.

And then a proper democratic revolution on both sides again.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yes please! I can't stand either regime.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Lemmy straight up cheering theocratic terrorists

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Iranian regime is fucking awful, the Israeli one is just even more awful such that Iran still seem like the good guys in comparison. Its like two assholes fighting, they're both assholes but one clearly started it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Lol you’re going to have to be more specific than that, it just sounds like you don’t like Muslims

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

We're not cheering for Israel

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Just because Israel are horrible, doesn't automatically make the people they're fighting the good guys.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I'd want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Was Iran actually producing nuclear weapons?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Iran has multiple enrichment sites, with a reported 83.7% pure U-235. Such purity is only needed for one thing, and it isn't nuclear power plants which typically only need 3%-5% U-235.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Haleu fuel is pretty common that’s enriched up to about 20%. Highly enriched fuel is still used for nuclear power on aircraft carriers that use 93% enriched U235.

Iran is definitely just trying to make weapons but wanted to at least give some examples of higher enriched fuels

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Every credible comment I've read says they're in the process of developing them, the only group who says otherwise is Iran themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They havent been in the process of developing them. They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.

Iran has always been "close" to develop nuclear weapons over the past years, to ensure that it can do so to defend itself in the case of an attack. Now with Israels unprecedented attack, it is more likely that Iran sees the need to actually develop a nuke to protect its existence.

Israel knows this and keeps pushing to quickly get the US involved beyond a point of no return and fight the war against Iran for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE stating that Iran has likely started the race to a bomb. They (Iran) have also recently expelled UN oversight from their enrichment sites.

I’m not defending Israel but what does that look like to you? Sure seems like for some people their hatred for Israel is clouding their objective judgement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE

And that report follows a document leak showing the IEAE actively passing on confidential reports from Iran directly to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.

Isn't that part of the process though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is a prerequirement.

If you produce thick steel sheets, that is a requirement to build tanks, but it doesnt mean you are building tanks.

Now if you start welding those sheets together in a tank shape, while making all the other stuff that you find in a tank, now you are building a tank.

So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.

Which is precisely what they're doing, unless you actually believe they want that level of enrichment for a power plant.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

From all available intelligence, no. They clearly have a nuclear weapons program (which are insanely huge to begin with) but there has never been a measured test, and no evidence of enriched uranium at a high enough purity to be weaponized.

It's insanely hard work to created weaponized enriched uranium. With the sanctions Iran has had for decades it would be next to impossible for them to get all the stuff they need to create it on their own.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most definitely. I want every country on Earth to have their own nuclear weapons. It's the ultimate deterrent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

You want 195 countries to have nukes?

Then, it's just a matter of time until a bug in some software or a crazy leader that was or wasn't elected lead to the worst case.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is acceptable. Either we'll enter great times, or we will no longer be capable of understanding what good times are. Both sound good to me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Browsing Lemmy feels more and more like listening to people in a crack house discussing global politics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, I only comment when I'm feeling sleepy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Please stop ad go sleep instead.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

If the country who drop two has it, why not?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hasn't Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell's jar to appear any moment now).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

given how the US lost so many recent wars, I wouldn't consider the US a military power.

they are great at funneling taxpayer money to shareholders pockets. but they can't win against the protest people in the world.

they invade, try to set up a puppet state, then leave with the tail between their legs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

This. People don't like it when I say the US is a Paper Tiger. uS power doesn't come from its military strength but from its economic strength.

If pushed hard, it would crumble. The only reason the US has military bases all over is to scare those countries into submission to exploit their workforce. Yet, all those bases are fucking expensive to just maintain. If those countries resisted, then the US loses its economic strength gained from their exploitation, and its military crumbles when it cannot afford to satisfy both it's military contracts and maintain its presence abroad.

Not to mention the internal turmoil when the citizens experience the affects on society when the oligarchy can't subsidize the consumerist lifestyle anymore. Thought that's happening already thanks to the imperial boomerang.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Ironically, many have tried (so now we know the result. And the proverb)...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Give me whatever it is you're smoking cause it's probably a helluva drug.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

The only way that "Iran" can win is if/when the people overthrow the Supreme Dictator

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Israel is the US

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