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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Fuck all the assholes that voted Jill Stein over Palestine or some stupid reason like that. It never was about Palestinians, and these assholes got us here: Hell

You brought all of us here, you deserve nothing

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Fuck Joe Biden and team for watching the devolution to fascism happening in real time and deciding to spend their time doing genocide instead of stopping fascism.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I still can't believe they sat on their fucking hands after Trump's multiple indictments, and did nothing to prevent the dude from running again after breaking the law 90+ times. What a useless party. All they did was try to look good.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

What a useless party. All they did was try to look good.

Be fair. They also sold weapons to netanyahu for genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Not just that but ABSOLUTELY REFUSING to defend the country from domestic terrorism

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

And fuck all the accelerationists who, instead of telling people to vote for Harris anyway, shouted her sins from the rooftops down at the voters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We are not accelerationist. We are realist. And you have your head stuck up your bum. America is an imperialist empire and fascists are the useful idiots of the empire. The chemist watches chemicals change, so do people who have political literacy. What is happening is not a surprise. Liberals are controlled opposition and they work on behalf of the military industrial complex. Love me, love me, I'm a liberal. Leaning in to smell your own brand I bet. Kahlama lama ding dong there's nothing but a pig. And as I change my framework and I'm honest with myself, I listen to her talk and she sounds almost like she doesn't even want to be there. The Democrats are losing. Not only because there is no way you're going to stop this train, but because they're too fat and happy. Oh Nancy! Where's Nancy? Probably too busy getting rich. You can't just watch YouTube and TV and act like you're an expert on politics. I listen to the right wing because they are the byproduct of a failing capitalist system and they have needs as well. And they might project their insecurities on you, but at the same time, they are the confused proletariat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

You're right, Kamala didn't want to be there. She wanted to lose. And you were fool enough to give her exactly what she wanted. Why did you work with Kamala? Why help her?? Are you working for the liberal oligarchy too?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shouting Bidens sins was the only way to get them to run a candidatewho coukd have had a shot. Its the DNCs fault she positioned herself to commit the same sins.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying you took a risky gambit hoping the Democrats would improve, and they didn't, and you got a fascist elected?

Who could have predicted thaaaaaaaaat.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I did not make genocide unpopular, the only way the dems could have won was if they did everything in their power to fight Republicans and improve people's material conditions and promised even more after the election. The only thing I could do was try to stop them from deluding themselves that they could win with dogshit policy and 4 years of telling their constituents to eat shit while working with Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can't tell if I have a higher opinion of you because I think you could have done better, or if I have a lower opinion of you because you won't accept you failed. Either way no, you didn't choose the best strategy you could have.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only strategy that could have worked was to get the dems to run an electable platform. Telling critics to shut up and vote helps them maintain the delusion the can win with the right messaging or moving further to the right. Nothing I could possibly say to a random potential voter will be as effective as "the dems ar e the reason you have free healthcare", "the Republicans will restart the genocide in Palestine", or "remember that time Biden's AG threw Trump and a dozen republican congressmen in prison for treason?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And you thought the democrats were smart enough to run an electable platform? Well then I'm sure you won't take it as an insult when I say your intelligence is akin to theirs.

Your plan failed, and you should have known it would fail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They have proven that they can be forced to do the right thing when they have no alternative. They got rid of Biden when even their most optimistic polls showed him losing, and Harris's popularity didn't crater fast enough when she started to embrace the policies that killed the Biden campaign for them to get back on course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Didn't you hear? It's actually because she's a woman. Women can't win now that progressives have an obvious popular female candidate and centrists don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying even when they listened to you, they still picked a moderate liberal who's complicit with genocide and brags about drilling for oil.

You cannot scare them into doing the right thing. They're too stupid. Stop going after this pie in the sky and accept the world we live in. I can't believe that I have to explain to you that the democrats are stupid. Why do you have so much faith in them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She only started when her popularity let the dems believe they could use the same policy. I have zero faith in the dems moral fortitude or intelligence, I am only going off what has motivated dems to pretend they want what we want in the past.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Nothing has motivated them to do that in the past decade+. Whatever goodness and ability to adapt to the people's wishes you're seeing in them, it's not there. Please stop defending the democrats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

What is this cacophonous radical ideology that makes the MLs give their sensible arguments? I MUST HAVE THIS POWER

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For those that are confused, the above comment is an excellent example of propaganda

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it inaccurate to say Biden/Garland slow rolled arresting Trump?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Propaganda doesn't have to be inaccurate to be propaganda.

All it needs to do is fulfill an ulterior intent

The old Uncle Sam 'I want you' posters weren't even factual claims but they certainly were propaganda that led to many people signing up that would have otherwise lived.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So facts are propaganda now. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually yes. Something can be both true and shown in a biased or misleading way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propaganda

ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The dictionary proving me wrong is propaganda! /s

Fair enough, however.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Propaganda doesn’t have to be inaccurate to be propaganda.

It just has to disagree with your worldview.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Incorrect, there's plenty of propaganda that agrees with my worldview, and that's the most insidious and most important to be vigilant against.

Why are you putting words into my mouth? Scared of a conversation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Why are you putting words into my mouth?

I'm not. I'm outright saying that you dismiss anything that disagrees with you as propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah all those third party voters who if they all voted for Kamala wouldn't have changed the results of any state are to blame. Not picking unpopular polices, or breaking away from Biden who was a deeply unpopular candidate. It's the people who had zero impact state and federal level.

Not worth listening to, but big enough to blame. The enemy is weak and strong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's sad I recognize your username because you always have the dumbest fucking thing to say.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Thankies Bestie!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If anti-genocide Americans weren't significant enough to listen to, they're not significant enough to blame.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

Concepts like that are too logical for the Liberal mind to comprehend

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Need that on a t shirt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A brain so smooth its literally frictionless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

You should probably spend more time stomping around your basement yelling at the monitor screen

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck all the assholes that voted Jill Stein over Palestine

Point to the state Harris wins with the Green Party vote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Notice how they can't but will regurgitate their talking points, because fact checking is propaganda, or something.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

fuck the people that never even bothered to vote at all even though it's literally the most important thing you can do as a citizen in a democracy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You know there's more to vote for than president right, and more things that effect you directly. Not even dwelling on the fact that politicians earning your vote is the cornerstone of democracy, not candidates that have your vote no matter what because how awful the other guy is.

Always curious to hear when people lash out at other voters who have clear concise demands and a non-cursory grasp of politics if they spent the time to research and vote for the different props in their area, or if they just read the ads each side puts forth and just pick one. Or worse yet, skips them or randomly bubbles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you’re voting or not voting for one soul reason and only one soul reason then you are both a victim and enabler of The Southern Strategy. You did everything the GOP asked of you. You got played.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

First of all, the fuck you think I didn't have more than one reason?

Second, the southern strategy is about otherizing minorities to keep the working class fighting amongst ourselves, not about "single issue voting" as you seem to imply.

Third, a line in the sand is not the same thing as single issue voting. And (talking about the Gaza Genocide as you're implying) genocide is a pretty hard fucking line in the sand. Your privledge is showing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Your lack of situational understanding is showing.

Edit: and the southern strategy used race as a single issue vote strategy during the Nixon Goldwater era, the core of it is single issue voting. Get people to vote, or not vote, for a singular issue and everything else is on the table. Hence the chorus of “I didn’t vote for this.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

fuck the people that never even bothered to vote at all

Funny, because so much of Trump's support came from people who were totally checked out of the process under Romney and McCain.

If you look at his gross turnout, he's presided over an enormous surge in GOP participation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You are scapegoating a tiny minority of people, of only about 0.5%. You are no different than the conservatives, maybe you should consider joining them instead?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

With how things are shifting, if they stick with them in 2028, they'll be 2016 Republicans. They're already doing a lot of the policies and voting for it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

You're right about the few morons that voted Trump who do not share his hatred and bigotry, but remember... most of the country didn't even vote.