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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ben Gurion's is 1937.

It’s really easy to cherry pick similar statements from people and compare them and make a whole website.

My dude non-fascists don't say "when we settle [region], [group] will have no choice but to scurry like drugged cockroaches" (dated 1983 btw). Also the site has dates and sources for the quotes; most Zionist quotes are recent but a few are from the 20th century with two from before WWI. They even have one by Herzl himself. Zionism was and continues to use and be predicated on downright Nazi antisemitic propaganda about how Jews can never live with non-Jews and how diaspora Jews are sickly and weak and all that shit. That's why they shit on Holocaust victims, for instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

1937 is how many years after 1897? Have I not been saying this entire time that the original idea was lost? Yes.. pretty sure I did… yup checked I did.

My dude? Okay have a good day if you’re going to talk like that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well obviously if you define your "original idea" early enough there'll be nothing to criticize because they'll have done nothing yet. But fine. Is plain antisemitic propaganda in 1904 early enough for you? What about "a land without a people for a people without a land" in 1898?

“A Jew brought up among Germans may assume German custom, German words. He may be wholly imbued with that German fluid but the nucleus of his spiritual structure will always remain Jewish, because his blood, his body, his physical-racial type are Jewish. … It is impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his own. In order to become assimilated, he must change his body, he must become one of them, in blood. … There can be no assimilation as long as there is no mixed marriage. … An increase in the number of mixed marriages is the only sure and infallible means for the destruction of nationality as such. … A preservation of national integrity is impossible except by a preservation of racial purity, and for that purpose we are in need of a territory of our own where our people will constitute the overwhelming majority.”

-Ze'ev Jabotinsky (né Vladimir Yevgenyevich Zhabotinsky), Revisionist Zionist leader who co-founded the Jewish Legion of the British Army in World War I, on June 06, 1904

‘National Judaism’ will make the ancient soil fertile. It seems miraculous. Everything natural is miraculous. Once the nation which we Zionists are arousing is fully awakened, things will happen swiftly and dynamically. Then the nation will behold its ancient land beautifully situated on the Mediterranean, with regions of cold, moderate and warm climate – a land suited for any kind of cultivation, with long-dormant natural resources.”

-Literally Theodor Herzl, 1896.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My dude, it’s over. Goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Classic troll pulls their ripcord as soon as their interlocutor brings receipts.

Thanks for doing that btw. SO many more people will read the actual sources in this thread and come to their conclusion instead of yours.

L debate skills

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's over, but not before you were soundly and mostly politely trounced. Grasping on their using "my dude" as justification to duck out is the lamest cope I've seen in years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It’s just a back and forth that won’t end. And we both agree that Israel is genocidal assholes, so what’s the point of arguing the chicken and the egg anymore than we have, my dude.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Goodbye, my dude

PS: I have literally never seen anyone complain about this before. Is this not normal internet English?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You don’t know that “my dude” means “fuck you you piece of shit”? I mean, are you 12 years old? I was saying “my dude” as an insult in 1998. Grow up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Are people confused because someone forgot to label their sarcasm?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think you thought you offended some folks with an endearing phrase. My whole life I have heard it used and I've used it myself as a synonym of "friend" or otherwise respectable reference to someone. Quick online check agrees.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh? Okay I'm not a native speaker so I'm not exactly an authority here but I'm 99.999% sure this is either a dialect, extremely local slang or something equally weird. Can someone confirm or deny this? A quick google didn't turn out anything either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

My dude, chill.