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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Israel does not have a future after this. They're removing their own credibility, and the world knows it. They're nothing but a rogue state at this point, waiting to be put to sleep like a rabid dog.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Israel does not have a future after this.

If Germany and Japan could have a future after WW2 - a war they lost categorically - Israel will do just fine in the coming decades, after successfully executing a full ethnic cleanse of some of the more valuable real estate in the Mediterranean.

Israel isn't a rogue state, it's a cat's paw. They're doing the dirty work as a proxy for allies who have wanted to wipe Arabs off that corner of the map for decades. In the end, however, you're going to see western states welcome Israelis back into the fold with open arms, just so long as they can pin this all on Netanyahu and pretend it wasn't a national project with the full support of the Israeli public.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes an entire population should be put down like a rabbid dog.

Seriously are you listening yourself? Genocide much?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The state of Germany was put down twice, completely dismantled, and ceded. There are still a lot of Germans around. Do you not differentiate between a state and the people residing in it?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All the major western countries still back up israel and.was celebrsting them attacking Iran. Unfortunately israel is not a rogue state yet

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bet they are grabbing by the balls most of those states with something. If that is the case, it won't last for long.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

They buy israeli military tech tested in gaza and are still neocolonial racist countries

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US backs Israel no matter what. However the current situation is more difficult within the EU. Suspending the trade agreement with Israel is relativly possible. At the same time Israel being convicted of genocide, would basically end any sort of moral argument made in countries like Germany. Also the US is a huge reason to be more Israel friendly and that relationship has some issues.

Israel attacking Iran was celebrated in countries like Syria too. Not exactly a rarer stance in the Arab world too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Syrians hate Iran but hate Israel harder. If EU can still back up Ukraine despite trump siding with Russia, they can stop supporting Israel too. There is no excuse at all for Europe. The strongest European countries has zero issue with Israel they just like to pretend