Was recently banned from a whole bunch of DB0 communities for, as best as I can gather, downvoting once when I viewed by All (potentially accidentally while scrolling).
Important notes:
- I don't use scripts.
- I don't mass-downvote Communities. If I see a post I generally don't like when browsing All, I may downvote one post, block the Community and move on.
- Some of the communities I was banned from don't have any posts in them so I wouldn't have been able to downvote anything.
- Of all of these Communities, in my history I downvoted one post in one of them. Voting in this manner is not vote manipulation. It's quite literally a feature of the platform and as a mod of another Community, I would consider it pretty good etiquette.
- One of my bans reads "Appeal Granted, not a brigading member" but I'm still banned.
- I don't troll.
WTF is going on here?
EDIT - Updated Info from the conversation below: In the initial image, you can see two "ban waves."
The 10 bans three months ago stem from a single downvote in one Community. It was @[email protected] See here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/34853477
I was called out by name for a single downvote and culled from a score of Communities I did not participate in by them.
The other bans from two months ago are from four total downvotes over a 10-month timeframe in one Community.
I have also stated in this thread that I don't have issues with AI-gen images, but there are shoddy ones and well-done ones.
EDIT 2: Now unbanned from the ten Communities listed as "3 months ago" in my initial image, but have been banned from three more because of this thread with the reason given being "self-proclaimed anti-AI brigader" which are two things I didn't claim to be. God dammit Lemmy...
Honestly. Doing this when someone makes dozens of downvotes is ridiculous and stupid. Doing this with a single downvote is… I can't even begin to fathom how unimaginably stupid and ridiculous that is.
You mean "dozens of downvotes" specifically directed at a single community?
I don't even have downvotes on my instance but would that really be unusual? I often see a lot of people on a thread making the same wrong statements. I could see how that kind of thing would lead to a lot of downvotes in the same community and I was never very heavy handed with my downvoting.
In this case I'm referring to the hypothetical of a single account, consistently downvoting almost every post on a community with zero interaction history. And they keep doing it.
I can't speak for whatever you've done or been accused of, but those accounts do exist and it's completely justifiable that some community owners ban them.
I don't think votes should be an actionable metric in any circumstance. Bots should be banned, but real people should be allowed to vote as much as they want on whatever they want. Otherwise you're just cultivating an echo chamber.
Disagree. If I run a metal music community, and someone who doesn't like metal continually goes in there and downvotes everything because, well, they don't like metal music. What use are they to it? Why wouldn't I ban them? All they're doing is hurting the visibility of the community. This is the context in which I would ban downvoters from my community. Serial mass downvoting by people who never otherwise engage with the community, don't like the topic of the community, and in some cases - the accounts have zero comment history and purely exist to downvote.
I think this is quite different to just 'wanting an echo-chamber'.
Ok, I guess that it was just "dozens" threw me off. That isn't that much.
Depends on the time between the downvotes. Believe it or not there are accounts that exist that exist purely to downvote. They do nothing else.
12 downvotes in 5 minutes is normal. 50+ in a day is not.
Only deliberately antagonistic types of posts collect that amount of downvotes that quickly on lemmy in my experience tbh.
That is not normal for innocuous posting
Seems pretty normal to me. People have opinions about everything and there are clearly more than a dozen people here so a dozen downvotes doesn't mean 100% of people are disagreeing.
I post a lot on a pretty busy community for lemmy standards and have never seen 12 downvotes in such a short time. Or any number close.
Also I am not sure how 50 downvotes over a day is more sus to you than 12 in 5 minutes.
12 in 5 minutes means you have an opinion on a specific topic. More than 50 is a lot of opinons on many topics which we could be closer to bot behavior but I would still verify if they were human and move on with my day.
But there's also a large difference between 5 minutes and 24 hours time-wise.
12 downvotes in 5 minutes on ostensibly 'neutral' or non-controversial topics are way dodgier to me than 50 in 24 hours. I have never seen downvoting at such a rate anyway.
Obviously you've seen 12 upvotes in 5 minutes so I'm not sure why would think it's impossible. We clearly have different opinions on what a downvote is used for except I'm not trying to restrict something that exists.
No, I said I haven't seen 12 downvotes in 5 minutes. I accept for extreme cases it might happen, but for ordinary topical posting in the relevant communities? Never seen it.
Also, I didn't say anything about restricting it.