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Feds in Catalonia, Spain think everyone using a Google Pixel must be a drug dealer
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this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2025
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Doesn't a Google Pixel device come with its own OS image by default, independent of Graphene OS? Is there some kind of step that we're missing here?
Yes. Cops are idiots. Duh.
It does, but a lot of people but the pixels specifically to put graphene on it because graphene they're compatible and graphene offers better privacy and security. What I'm getting here is drug dealers are using graphene to dodge digital narcs and it's becoming common enough that the Venn diagram skews heavily to drug dealing.
0.1% up to 2% absolute max?
Some data (250k people installing updates)
I mean yeah, I'd say 250k is a lot for a 3rd party phone OS.
The experience speaks for itself. I dont know of anyone who's ever willingly gone back to stock android either.
You can buy them with either stock Android, or Graphene. Meaning you don't need to re flash the device or anything.
You cant buy grapheneos preloaded on anything and doing so would be pretty foolish since it could be backdoored. GraphenOS is aimed at people who value security and privacy, you dont let some rando flash your phone if you value those things.
You absolutely can, just not from the manufacturer. But I agree that it's dumb, installation is easy and doesn't come with the added risk of the seller putting on some spyware or whatever.
I think this is incorrect but I could be wrong.
You can not buy a Pixel device preloaded with GrapheneOS. They only come from Google with their standard Android and it's up to the end user to install GrapheneOS. Unless you buy a used Pixel device with GrapheneOS already installed.
If friends asked I would flash their pixel with Graphene, then set it up basically as they would use it for them.
Getting started was complex, your average user won't have a good experience getting their apps added without a power user helping.
I would like to install it someday but I'm afraid of this process
Its really not too complicated. Id recommend doing it using a other phone as the installer rather than a PC though, just goes smoother IMO. Very straightforward web installer, just push buttons alongside the instructions.
https://grapheneos.org/install/
What's the complex part?
Technically if something goes wrong you will need help and need to find answers on your own. If you are confident using duckduckgo searches to find answers for technical problems already you should be fine, and most likely won't even need support at all.
Hmm, you used to be able to buy them directly from Google, but that doesn't seem to be the case any more.
Umm... I don't think that's right. I don't think you could ever buy a phone from Google with GrapheneOS.
Yeah I'd consider that as a used phone. I'd only get the hardware from the OEM and install GrapheneOS myself. Less chance of man in the middle. It's super easy to install using the web installer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield