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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm curious why you think there's an obesity epidemic if BMI as bad as you claim. Surely this means the problem is blown way out of proportion and the obesity rates are actually much lower?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope.

Because lots of obese people have healthy bmi's

They're usually the ones blowing badly defending it and haven't had blood work done in a decade. They have no idea how unhealthy they are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry for the repeat questions but I'm not too knowledgeable on this; I thought BMI would have more false-positives (very muscular people for e.g.), but it seems you're saying false negatives are a greater concern.

Would that be people with extremely low muscle mass so they have a BMI that might only show as overweight but due to body fat percentage they're obese?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but it seems you’re saying false negatives are a greater concern.

Someone with a bad BMI but healthy will get further testing and told they're healthy...

Someone with a "good BMI" because they have bird bones and no muscle, just fat, will never have further testing done and always insist BMI is all that matters. You can see it anytime BMI comes up, people ignore all evidence that say they may need to look deeper than that single number.

Consider life in the 1830s to now, it would have been impossible for even the wealthiest to avoid exercise and consume as many calories as the average modern human. Shit just isn't comparable.

There's no logical reason to keep using it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

While I agree with you that there can be a risk of skinny people missing diagnosis because they're "healthy", I think you're overestimating how well fat people are treated in healthcare. If a patient is fat, there is no further testing done. They're told to lose weight whether healthy or not, and regardless of whether it's relevant to their concerns or not. Obesity is still used as a cutoff to deny access to surgeries that will measurably improve their health, despite there often being no increased risk of complication.

As I said, I don't disagree with your issue about skinny causing medical neglect: the way our society, including medicine, blindly follows weight as the only thing that matters (examples above for fat individuals, telling skinny people with terminal illnesses they look great for having lost weight, amputating functional organs to cause malnourishment and by extension weight loss, even to folks who are arguably healthy and in a mid to low BMI range...) Is detrimental to everyone's well being.