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Biden warns the US is at an 'inflection point in history' | ABCNL (www.youtube.com)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Really wish he had mentioned solidarity with fucking PALESTINE as well. We as a nation can support Ukraine against Putin, Israel against Hamas, and Palestine against Israel and Hamas, all at the same time. It isn't that wild of an idea.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To quote the speech that you evidently did not watch or read:

Like so many others, I’m heartbroken by the tragic loss of Palestinian life
We mourn every innocent life lost. We can’t ignore the humanity of innocent Palestinians who only want to live in peace and have an opportunity.
Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people. Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields, and innocent Palestinian families are suffering greatly because of them.
Yesterday, in discussions with the leaders of Israel and Egypt, I secured an agreement for the first shipment of humanitarian assistance from the United Nations to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. If Hamas does not divert or steal this shipment, these shipments, we’re going to provide an opening for sustained delivery of lifesaving humanitarian assistance for the Palestinians.
As I said in Israel, as hard as it is, we cannot give up on peace. We cannot give up on a two-state solution.
Israel and Palestinians equally deserve to live in safety, dignity and peace.
In recent years, too much hate has given too much oxygen, fueling racism, a rise in antisemitism, Islamic-phobia, right here in America.
And I know many of you in the Muslim American community, the Arab American community, the Palestinian American community and so many others are outraged and hardened saying to yourselves, “Here we go again with Islamophobia and the distrust we saw after 9/11.”
We must also without equivocation denounce Islamophobia.
And to all you hurting, those of you who are hurting, I want you to know I see you. You belong. And I want to say this to you: You’re all America. You’re all America.
And here in America, let us not forget who we are. We reject all forms, all forms of hate, whether against Muslims, Jews, or anyone.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/us/politics/transcript-biden-speech-israel-ukraine.html

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, he lays the blame of what's happening to the Palestinians squarely at the feet of Hamas, and not at Israel too.

He accuses Hamas of using them as human shields, but ignores that someone is choosing to drop bombs on them anyways.

He is erasing the decades of Israeli government and settler violence, occupation, and resource starvation of Palestinians and their land, that drives them into Hamas' arms.

There are 2 evil groups at play here, but he is only condemning one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thank heavens for having a sane leader.

Hopefully Biden can now walk the walk to get Israel and Hamas leadership to get out of their own asses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Palestine against Israel and Hamas

Ive not heard Palestinians of Gaza say bad things about Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

To their defense, it's not exactly a safe idea to hold an anti-Hamas rally. Polling, as unreliable as it is in areas like Gaza, generally shows majority, but not absolute, support for Hamas, and it's of course a completely different picture in the West Bank.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Rapidcreek @theangriestbird i saw some numbers somewhere that the majority of them would rather have Hamas than no defense against Israel, but they'd rather have someone else than Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rock and a hard place, it's very similar to the situation the people of Afghanistan find themselves in, if you are living in Kabul, yeah the Taliban aren't sunshine and rainbows, but you are pretty happy to see them swoop in when ISIS shows up. (I'm not equating ISIS and the IDF directly for the record, but you can see how from a Gazans perspective the IDF poses a similar threat at times)