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I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Are you implying that this user is the real Richard Stallman? If that’s true, this thread just got 100x more hilarious.
some people allege that the copypasta was created by him (i doubt this)
Too bad—for a second there I thought he’d lost even more of his marbles.
There is one part which he didn't say, regarding how linux is part of the gnu system when the gnu kernel is actually gnu hurd
This ain't a bdsm club, so this is a bad argument.
Maybe you'll like it more under this new guise: I named my cat Goofyball. But since Linnaeus named the species Felis catus, you remind me that my cat's name should ackchyually be Felis catus/Goofyball. To which I reply, very appropriately, 'it's MY cat'. So Goofyball it is.
Understand now the authority argument? Authority in the sense of authorial, having an author.
Linus didn't choose Linux because he thought it sounded too self-centred.
and then he went and named a project 'Git'
you authored your cat? why does that sound dirty?
Sorry if I mistake your intention. If that's the case, it's just me making a wrong guess.
You're probably misreading this.
I authored THE NAME. If you prefer, I'm the name-giver, the author in this sense.
Linus is the namer and the creator of that kernel.
As creator he is by right allowed to name his creation whatever he likes. Just like me, as the cat 'entity creator as a pet' am allowed to name it whatever I like.
No outsiders input required. You get now what I mean by author?
Whatever your reply may be, let me thank you already for engaging. It's nice to be pressured to explain something in simpler, more accessible terms.
Don't feed the trolls.
I'm pretty sure everyone here understands both sides of the argument, but just don't concider it important enough to change their vocabulary.
Lmao I was going to ask if this was a copy pasta.
When it's such a massive wall of text of the type of complaining about something it usually is
You can have a Linux distro without GNU -Alpine Linux is a popular example
You can have a GNU distro without Linux - Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian GNU/kFreeBSD are popular examples
I think "popular" is stretching it here, Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is dead now, and while Hurd is interesting, it has ways to go.
Alpine is actually popular, particularly as a lightweight host OS to run docker.
Honestly, I think the only interesting micro kernel right now is Redox OS.
I just imitated your tone with 'popular' didnt mean anything much.
And nobody calls that GNU/Linux.
I've been using it for more than 20 years, but I still love when someone pulls the GNU/Linux card.
To me it feels like reading an old plaque in Latin. It reminds me of an important past that shouldn't be forgotten.
Christians quote the bible, Muslims quote the Quran and we have our own set of sacred texts.
Mine is Eric and the Dread Gazebo.
That is a fairly sacred text. Good choice
That's LiGNUx for short.
pronunciation? uhhh...
Lignu balls
That's a pretty relevant take in this context. Thank you!
Haven't seen this copy pasta in a few months. Great stuff...
So, GNU is GNU is Not Unix, but now it's not Linux either?
GNUOL ?
Where is this from?