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Twitter post by Daniel Feldman (@d_feldman): Linux is the only major operating system to support diagonal mode (credit [Twitter] @xssfox). Image shows an untrawide monitor rotated about 45 degrees, with a horizontal IDE window taking up a bottom triangle. A web browser and settings menu above it are organized creating a window shape almost like a stepped pyramid.
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Another funny concept
Hmm yes, web dev horrors beyond my comprehension!
That, right there, is a perfect example of why folks need to stop trying to shoehorn web apps everywhere they don't belong. It's a use-case for a proper native mobile app if ever there was one.
even if it's just mobile
you already have to handle landscape/portrait mode
now imagine having to handle angled
That's why you should've just handled arbitrary rotations instead of inventing a finite predefined set of orientation "modes" in the first place.
Things get a lot easier in the long run if you aggressively look for commonalities and genericize the code that handles them instead of writing bunches of one-off special cases.
And this is why my webapp only renders properly on circular displays.
Mine only renders on moebius strips.
Why does this low key feel like something I would actually want to use
They put touchscreens on doorstops now? /s
Java truly runs on everything.
BRB, sticking microcontrollers to the back of my monitors so I can use their accelerometers to report the orientations in real time...
I would love it so much if xrandr was able to keep up with that and didn't blink for 3 seconds every time you changed orientation
Maybe a custom Wayland compositor could keep up
Now we need triangular windows that reshape in real time when you spin the monitor.
Linux is the only major operating system ~~to support diagonal mode~~
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
You can have a Linux distro without GNU -Alpine Linux is a popular example
I've been using it for more than 20 years, but I still love when someone pulls the GNU/Linux card.
To me it feels like reading an old plaque in Latin. It reminds me of an important past that shouldn't be forgotten.
Christians quote the bible, Muslims quote the Quran and we have our own set of sacred texts.
Not on wayland, right? Time to pester wayland devs to add this important missing features!
Probably would fall into scope of a compositer in Wayland, rather than the protocol. I suspect it originated with old CRT displays. Sometimes they can appear scan diagonally.
Even without that usecase, I think it's great to have around in order to support novel displays and display-like devices.
Why would you want this?
What if your monitor has a bullet hole you want to avoid looking at?
Why does your monitor have a bullet hole?
Why do you ask so many questions? ಠ_ಠ
Why don't you answer them?
Because then words like "evidence" and "premeditated" get thrown around.
Because asking and answering too many questions was exactly how they ended up with a bullet hole in their monitor.
American schools
It’s a novelty. I for one deeply love unusually shaped monitors and UXs.
(insert image of Mt. Everest)
Because It's There.
How can you do fractional rotation? Does it only work with x11 or is it also supported in wayland?
Rotating the display by a custom angle is possible through xrandr on X.org.
There's no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don't expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.
My wild guess: Theoretically it should be possible for a compositor to support similar custom rotation, as applications simply draw to their surface (window), without knowing how and where it is displayed on the viewport (display).
But it might require quite a bit of work, depending on the project, so I don't expect to ever see custom rotation on anything besides smaller/niche compositors.
[1] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/552138/rotate-a-display-by-custom-angle#552140
There’s no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don’t expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.
Puh-lease. It's Wayland; the devs fully and honestly expect every app developer (eg.: calc, Libreoffice, notepad.exe) to implement custom angle rotation on their own.
There’s no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don’t expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.
[gestures at thread] Does this not count??? 😁
Seriously, though: I suspect there might be non-novelty use-cases in mobile devices, especially things like smart watches. Those aren't beyond the scope of Wayland in the long run, are they?
in wayland the compositor is king they can do mhatever they want with the screen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBLLC5fOy98&list=PLb7YRKEhWEBUIoT-a29UoJW9mhfzjpNle&index=2&pp=iAQB
Who hurt you
I remember seeing the video of this. The guy was doing it for shits and giggles, but it ended up looking great!