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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (10 children)

In the USA, you usually pay for garbage collection services which are private companies that provide you trash and recycling bins

what the hell

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

This varies heavily by location. I'm not sure "usually" comes into it. In and around cities it's not uncommon for the city government to handle trash collection. Farther out into the 'burbs or in rural locations you might have to hire a private trash company.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

What, too much freedom for you to handle?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Australia we pay about $700 a year to the local government to collect the bins

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

worth noting though this is not like a “you sort it out” thing or anything… it’s basically a tax

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

*council. It's part of your rates. My last were like $150 for recyc/garbage/green

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus. You sure that's not total rates incl fire service?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure, just changed my bins for an extra garden waste one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is a council not a government?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Governing body, certainly. In vic, they're considered a low tier of govt. In NSW they're actually considered 'elected corporate bodies'. It's weird.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can also be included as part of your taxes as well. I used to live literally 1 street over from where the official city limits were (a whole 1 mile from downtown), and while the city provided trash/recycling services within that boundary, anyone outside had to pay like $30/mo for a private service that only did trash pickup, and had to pay another $12/mo for recycling.

In my new town, we're on the very outskirts of the city, but it's all provided by the city as part of our property taxes. We get recycling, trash, and compost services. Best part is you even get 1m³ compost and mulch from the city from the compost service. We grew an absolutely insane amount of vegetables from it last year, it was really awesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't know there were municipal compost piles, mine is just down the road, thanks for the tip!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I live in the US and garbage collection is free in my city and many others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, the garbage companies work in exchange for exposure/free advertising

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

What do you think the US some socialist country?! Everything must be a private country because... Capitalism! No "socialized" waste disposal here!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course...? Trash collection has to be paid for, either privately or publicly, e.g. taxes. There's an Australian commenter below who pays almost double what I do as a yearly tax. In any case, you can always opt to deal with your own waste.

For example, I could burn, recycle and compost most of it for free. I make mulch from yard waste, ditch metal by posting on FB Marketplace, Craigslist, etc., for the scrap metal guys to grab.

Same for serviceable goods. Just put out some lawn chairs that I don't have the tooling to repair, and they're gone. I used to pick up old vacuum cleaners and repair them for a few dollars, give them to friends and neighbors or sell 'em for $20. (Great little side hustle. 95% of them just need a deep clean, new belt and bag.)

I've picked up a literal ton of stuff that's not good enough for one's home but works great at my camp in the boondocks. Got my wife a new TV yesterday and converted the Styrofoam packing into napalm for starting campfires.

I have two companies to choose from, because competition is good. $35/mo. covers my trash, and since my neighbor doesn't have much money, I let her use my cans. Call it <$20 per household. Think the government could operate that cheaply?

Buddy of mine drives around picking up old washers and dryers for free. Fixes and flips 'em for a nice profit. (This is hilariously easy.) He clears $100+ a pop, and people save $200-$400 on a new machine. Win-win.

In my area, if the government handled it all for "free", all that creative recycling/upcycling would end up in a landfill. Because who would give a shit? When you have to pay out your pocket for disposal it motivates you to think. Why would I bother rinsing and crushing my cans for personal profit if the govenment made them go away for free?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You realize your taxes pay for collection too. So you either pay a private company or you pay the government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's the same in my EU country (at least for single family homes, I don't know about apartments)

The private companies are contracted by the municipalities and I don't think you can legally avoid paying the garbage collection tax/fee.

Afaik they don't give you the option of dealing with your own trash, because that would mean a lot more trash in the forest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well obviously someone is paying for garbage collection, I just think a lot of people are used to having it be paid for over tax, so that you don't have to think about remembering to pay your quarterly $85 fee lol.