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[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (6 children)

That's the reason why most people drink pasteurized milk. Those who don't will soon find out about the dangers of raw milk.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but they will not be the only ones affected. Mutations and transmissions are not so tidy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pasteurization is pretty effective at killing stuff. That's literally what it's meant to do.

Mutations and transmission require a vast array of infections to net appreciable results. I don't think the rare raw milk drinkers will likely be a huge problem.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sure, pasteurization works. But then there's the forest...

A multi-state outbreak of HPAI A(H5N1) bird flu in dairy cows was first reportedon March 25, 2024. This is the first time that these bird flu viruses were found in cattle. CDC confirmed one human HPAI A(H5N1) infection that had exposure to dairy cattle in Texas that were presumed to be infected with the virus. While thought to be rare, this exposure to HPAI A(H5N1) bird flu virus is the first instance of likely mammal to human transmission.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Certainly not after drinking this stuff

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Those who don't will soon find out about the dangers of raw milk.

If those tradfluencers could read they'd be very upset.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Do they even sell raw milk in stores? I assume you need to get this straight from a farm? And I’m a bit shocked if 4.4 percent of the US is getting their milk from farms. That’s like what ~12million people?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

They did at whole foods like 15 years ago when I worked there. They pulled it from the shelves I believe because of some new law. A handful of our customers got super mad about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most people get them from farmers' markets. There are supposedly health advantages to it, but I'd assume this would be the case from buying from a smaller responsible farm over a corporate factory farm anyhow—regardless of whether it's pasteurized or not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It's prolly got some shit they'd call pro-biotic, which will help while their gut flora are eating their corpse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They sure do! And it's outrageously expensive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Yea, they consider it "more healthy" and "more natural" than pasteurized milk. The same kind of people who heal with prayers or crystals and read horoscopes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That’s crazy. I don’t usually drink milk so I never noticed. But every now and then I will make White Russians. Now I’ll need to keep an eye out. (Or will kahlua and vodka kill this stuff?)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Any milk you're getting at a regular store should be pasteurized.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They sell raw milk products at one of the grocery stores near me, but the people interested in raw milk products are very enthusiastic about it and willing to pay a premium to get sick, so the producers don’t hide the lack of pasteurization. It is all over the labels and more expensive than the pasteurized products.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Back in my day, people read articles instead of just looking at the title and commenting on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I already tried telling them you can still get the flu from pasteurized milk and also from just being near the cattle.

Braindead apes will do anything to defend their bovine titty pus juice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It's in pasteurized milk as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Source that it's harmless?

I expect better from you, lazynooblet

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

From the linked article:

The Food and Drug Administration, meanwhile, has detected genetic traces of H5N1 in roughly 20 percent of commercial milk samples. While commercial milk is still considered safe—pasteurization is expected to destroy the virus and early testing by the FDA and other federal scientists confirms that expectation—the finding suggests yet wider spread of the virus among the country's milk-producing cows.

TLDR: Pasteurization kills the virus. Which is the point of pasteurization.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Pasteurization renders the virus non infectious. Do a search if you are interested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Source? Have you slept in biology in school? Or don't they teach things like that where you live?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to the FDA it's most likely safe but can't be confirmed until actual tests are done.

Do they not teach proper research where you live?

"Because H5N1 has only recently been found in cattle, no studies have directly tested milk pasteurization’s ability to kill the virus, the FDA said in a statement."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

While H5N1 is new and there are no specific tests, pastereuzed milk being tested for all kinds of pathogens has quite a history. There is no reason to assume that H5N1 behaves fundamentally different from any other virus shred by the methods employed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yes, but the idea of pasteurisation is to get the amount of surviving microorganisms down to less than one in a million or better (depending on local definitions). The human body can then easily take care of the few remaining viruses.

Any kind of pasteurisation is not about eliminating 100% of MOs. It is always a compromise, but also always on the side of "better safe than sorry".