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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/14764738

Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

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[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 124 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Didn't think this was real at first read. But holy fudge it it is.. Game is now being review bombed on steam. Here's an additional article from Gaming on Linux:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/05/helldivers-2-will-soon-actually-require-a-playstation-network-account/

[–] Phelpssan@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The review chart is hilarious.

review chart

Doubt Sony or the developer expected this would happen.

Edit [May/04, 14h UTC]: Updated chart. More than 70k negative reviews already.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)

thanks for sharing the chart! I doubt they Sony takes a hint from this too, but it certainly shows other developers and publishers something about signing contracts with Sony...

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sony should take the hint. Many of these reviews are from people who can’t even get a PSN account in their country. So Steam is about to be flooded with requests for refunds due to the game not being available to some users. I already asked for a refund because of this.

It’s unlikely steam will be able to tell people to just pound sand, so Valve will likely step in at some point and then Sony will be in trouble with the platform itself.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Yup. I have a feeling Valve will like usual be on the side of their customers.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

as long as still they make money from it, and people already paid for the game, no they will not.

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Although the Steam page for HELLDIVERS 2 has clearly stated since release that a PlayStation Network account is required, you actually haven't had to link them. That will change really soon.

So if it were clearly written on the Steam page, I don't really get the complains.

[–] Phelpssan@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So if it were clearly written on the Steam page, I don’t really get the complains.

It was optional for several months and the info on the PSN page contradicted that, so there was a lot of room for confusion.

Not surprisingly that PSN page was edited earlier today, but there's a million screenshots floating around already, plus you can check the previous version in the Wayback Machine.

And even if it was clearly written on all places, it's still a "too bad you didn't read the fine print, now you're past the limit time for a refund, so either let Sony track you or lose access to the game" situation which is very shitty. There's also the fact that they sold the game to people in countries where is PSN is not available, which should not have happened if that requirement was going to be enforced in the future.

Not hard to see why people would get pissed and lose trust in the developer. I also think that players have been annoyed for a while with this type of requirement (not specifically in this game), and they are now getting a good outlet with a lot of publicity around to vent about it.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That makes much more sense now. I was also wondering why people didn‘t pick up on it earlier given the incredible popularity of this game. So of course people noticed it, but it just didn‘t make much sense. I can see why someone would shrug it off a messy bit of text that probably wasn‘t supposed to be there and will be removed or edited or something. Well edited it was… just not as expected I guess.

[–] Phelpssan@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

There's also the problem that they're clearly rushing this without much thought, they don't even have an answer to the obvious question of "what happens to people in regions not supported by PSN".

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who the fuck reads the entire steam page? My friend says buy the game, the reviews say it's great with friends, you go and buy the game not scan the steam page for predatory data hoarding policies.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

On top of the fact it was (more or less) turnkey. It worked. For months. Why would you look at the page when it works? If it was like that from the start, it would be different.

[–] leftzero 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

“But the plans were on display…”

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.

— Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Love this! 🙌 Just started listening to the Audiobooks.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean the radio show, I hope?

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks like the web archive is down for me atm. As long as you can hear multiple voice actors and sound effects, you're at the right place.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the one narrated by the one and only Stephen Fry <3

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's good too, but if you're listening to audio, might as well listen to a full cast.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Could you link to what you're referring to?

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Here: https://archive.org/details/HitchhikersGuideRadioShowLive

I believe the actual show starts from the 7th file in the list (the first ones are interviews and other such things that happened later)

Edit: The radio show is how it all started AFAIK.

Edit 2: please keep in mind that the content of the radio show isn't exactly the same as the book.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By clearly stated, they mean, in small letters further down on the steam page that nobody reads. Just like a cheeky terms of services..