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I figured a close stereotype for men, would be that they should all be farmers. The thing is, there are under two million farmers in the US as of 2023. So statistically, an equivalent occupation/role should have a larger number.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That men should be able to fix things and be mechanically inclined.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: We should. Obviously as someone who builds and fixes things for living I'm a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills (and so do many women). I think doing things like being able to change a tire on a car is about the bare minimum a man should know how to do. I'll cut you some slack if you don't own a car or a licence.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why a man though - why not just a person?

What is it that means that men ought to be able to do those things, but not women?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people. There's a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it's not (only) because women aren't welcome on those fields.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people.

Dude, you've been thoroughly brainwashed

There's a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it's not (only) because women aren't welcome on those fields

...and you double down

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, you've been brainwashed.

This is how productive your reply was. Are you going to elaborate or you here just to throw shit? Just telling someone they're wrong isn't exactly going to make them change their mind about it. Counter the argument - not the person saying it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't care if you change your mind... You are likely too far gone to think anything but man=labour, women=feels

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And you think there's no biological difference between the sexes. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Never said that... Stop projecting and maybe read a book

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we're here misrepresenting each other's views.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, you have been real clear... Now be nice and tell your wife it's ok to get out of the kitchen early today so she can rub your feet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Check out the actual statistics on what women and men choose an occupations when both people-related and non-people-related jobs are otherwise equal. There's quite a bit of evidence that men and women tend to prefer occupations in one or the other category.

Honestly, looking at how different men and women are physically, it is slightly absurd to assume that they are identical psychologically (i.e. have the exact same preference regarding people-oriented vs. technical occupations).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think that's a massive over-generalisation to be honest. Women are just as capable at any of those things.

I'm not sure why you would want to look down on people who don't know how to do a thing, but at least do it equally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ofcourse it's a generalization. I'm speaking of all men and women as groups. This isn't about individuals.

If you pick random 100 men and random 100 women from the population and give them the task of building/fixing something the men are going to perform better every single time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

All my best workers in shop and on site have been women, hands down. No egos; they listen and learn super-fast; they take great pride in acccomplishment and quality; they don't tell me how their dad did it or that they've "just always done it this way".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Yeah I think men and women should all have some basic level of repair skills. I feel like somewhere along the line everyone got too afraid to break things or hurt themselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills

That is a lot biased to the point that you can't even see that other men's lives may have put them in a position of not learning those things or even wanting to learn those things. It's great that you know how to do those things but just because someone has a penis doesn't mean they have to learn how to be handy. That doesn't make them any less of a man, just different from you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup, I have an essential tremor and fucking hate that one. I don't mind strength based tasks... but if I try and screw in a light bulb I'll probably crush it accidentally... don't even get me started on appliances like blenders and shit - in the best case scenario I'll brick the device... but I'll probably injur myself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean no offense at all, and feel free not to answer, but how do you type?

Is it like a special keyboard, voice to text, or do I just completely misunderstand what you mean?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At the moment it comes and goes with stress, as my dad aged it became more and more common but I can usually manage to type (with a lot of autocorrect help and backspace). It also varies with hand posture and that sort of clamping grip really makes me unsteady (for this reason scrubing potatoes is actually extremely difficult for me).

It's a neurological thing - almost certainly - so I only know what I've observed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

A friends son has this. It's a little disconcerting to watch a 25 year old shaking like they have Parkinsons. He seems to rely on large muscle movements and catching things as they go by rather than steadying in on something.