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Getting worse is putting it lightly.
Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.
It's like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode, an actually functional search feature, a functional and user-friendly mail filtering system, you can actually block senders, "All Mail" actually shows you all mail, and also Google isn't reading all your emails...
But I have nothing to hide!
Why shouldN'T sundar the creep read my email and check my nudes?
Mullvad also put together this recently: https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters/nothing-to-hide
Preach!
Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.
Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.
I've been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.
Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.
Eh, they're decently active on Reddit, I guess. They send the occasional newsletter regarding new features if you don't unsubscribe (and they're pretty good at not spamming with those, imo).
I see people say this all the time, and while feature updates are kind of slow, I'm also not lacking anything, personally. I would appreciate it if they smoothed-out SimpleLogin's extension, though. That thing is weirdly clunky to use.
Agree on the Linux bit, though. I'm surprised they haven't put more work into that.
Overall, I've been a happy customer for a few years, personally.
Is it still viable in 2024 to run a home email server? I used to have a personal Postfix box back in the day.
You'd have to be really committed. There's more admin work than you think to make sure you're not insecure or getting blocked.
I use a cheap VPS to host my email server. It's a bit easier than running it solely at home, but there's a lot of annoying work to "verify" yourself. Once you get your DNS records good, you shouldn't be blocked after that (unlike a home server). It only costs me $5/month plus the domain, which I think is money well spent. Doing the admin work to make sure I'm secure still needs to happen, but I don't mind that work and find it fun.
Gmail and other big providers tend to consider new domains to be spam until they've proven otherwise. Can't prove otherwise until you've been up and running for a while. Catch-22. The way out of that is to host with an existing provider for a few years.
Does it cut down on spam? Perhaps. Does it favor existing providers like Gmail? Yes, definitely.
Honestly, hosting email has long been difficult to setup, and all the more so if you don't want your box to be a spam host within three seconds of plugging it in.
I've been hosting a personal domain with an established-but-not-large hosting provider for around 6 years, without any troubles sending or receiving mail from that domain (via the provider's servers, of course).
Does that mean my domain is now well established enough to take email hosting to my own server?
Good chance you could at this point.
Awesome. Thanks.
I would need to see some alternates for Google Drive in that case.
Proton drive is fantastic.
I just signed up for that just to check it out and compare it, and it looks like upgrading the storage on it is more expensive than Google Drive.
Yeah but that’s expected. It’s difficult to compete as a smaller company compared to what Google can offer.
It’s the price of privacy and to be outside of the google ecosystem.
Apparently, doing a sync with it just on my documents and photos, it ended up filling up the Proton Drive and giving hundreds of errors on one of my Windows 10 computers.
Were those errors that the drive was full?
Some of those errors were about the drive being full.
I recently started using Tresorit, E2E encrypted cloud storage, owned by the swiss post, only downside I can find is price. I haven't used it long enough to really be able to recommend, but there aren't a ton of options out there.
There's an incredible story behind it. But, the short form is that Proton is more expensive because they're not harvesting your private information. In a few months the law will prevent them from doing for as long as the core fiscal law and Proton exist (at least decades).
I happily pay for my email service from Proton to compensate for all the data mining they AREN'T doing to me
If price is main concern, you still have options, but you'll need to be a lot more specific about what you need. For example:
I'm doing the last one. I have NextCloud installed on my custom NAS (just openSUSE Leap with some drives) and am working on configuring B2 as a backup service. It's more expensive than Drive, but it's also more versatile (streams movies to TV, use as Linux package cache for faster upgrades, etc).
Each of these are similar in price to Google Drive, but with a different feature set. Some are cheaper.
Sorry for not being more specific about what I need, I will explain it here.
With Google Drive, it gets assigned to a drive letter on my computer which is H: here and I'm not sure if any other Drive alternatives do that or not.
Right now, I currently pay $3 USD a month for 300 GBs of Google Drive space and they appear to go up with 5TBs for $25 USD a month and $10TBs for $50 USD a month.
I'm not interested in One Drive as that is Microsoft's Shit.
Here are options for to mount Backblaze B2 as a drive. It's $6/TB/month, and I think they allow <1TB, so for 300GB you'd pay ~$2/month. So I think they're pretty competitive, but I'm not familiar with Google Drive's terms. They're certainly in the same ballpark, if not cheaper, but it depends on your egress and Google Drive's policies around that (how much you download from their service).
Well, for one thing, I would want to find out if there is a way to mount a remote drive service to a drive letter on a Windows machine like Google Drive so that I can have it as a backup option that would keep my stuff privacy, and not scraped by some AI LLM.
And that's exactly what that page discusses. It links three options you can try:
The first two are paid, the last is FOSS, and it claims each can mount Backblaze B2 as a Windows drive. I haven't tried any of them, so YMMV.
But what if Alphabet buys Proton!?
They went non-profit recently to specifically prevent this from happening.
https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation
Block all their servers on your network, it’s really not hard to go Google-free.
duckduckgo and yandex.
restricting your search to r*ddit to filter out blogspam.